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Feb 24, 2020 20:55:32   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
mjones540 wrote:
A photographer shoots photographs. Fauxtographers shoot snapshots and generally don't know the difference. Shooting "in the raw" is overrated, because whether you edit in or out of camera is irrelevant, except that you save yourself post-shooting work doing the former and can decide on the spot if a shot is a fail, usually allowing for another shot. Photographers have also been able to welcome constructive criticism, known as "critiques" in their training. A lot of people today can't deal with that. Also, photographers can make money with their work if they want to.
A photographer shoots photographs. Fauxtographers ... (show quote)


So when a Fauxtographer, a new person, a greenie, gets good and understands the process, he gets to spell it correctly?

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Feb 24, 2020 21:06:17   #
Gallopingphotog
 
Dannj wrote:
I’ll open the can here: If I sell some of my work but don’t “make a living” at it (which is also subjective) am I disqualified from calling myself a “professional”?


Our three-state photo exhibit/competition amateur rules say: "If you offer your work to the public for compensation, please enter our professional division."

Key word is "offer." If you say you're a pro, then -- at least for the sake of this competition -– you are.

Saves quibbles: What percent of income makes one a pro?; What constitutes a "living"?; What if my business card says I'm a pro but I've never made any money at it?; If I shoot a wedding as a favor to my friend/cousin, etc. and they give me a thank-you gift ($100+), is that the same as selling it?

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Feb 24, 2020 21:09:49   #
Adamborz
 
Well I got through 7 pages then skipped to page 17... I’m an impatient photographer! 😎

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Feb 24, 2020 21:17:52   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Longshadow wrote:
See FotoHog's comment above.


Hi Bill..... You missed my point..... Re read my statement.......

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Feb 24, 2020 21:20:15   #
Greenhi
 
I agree with the folks who say that you are a pro if you make a living off of your photography. I would say anyone who takes pictures with the goal of creating an emotional bridge to those viewing their photos is free to call themselves a photographer. If a photo fuels one's sense of wonder it is a gift to all.

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Feb 24, 2020 21:21:32   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Auto ISO is an auto mode, not full manual.


So is aperature and shutter priority. My point was to answer the party about fast changing conditions and possibly missing a shot. All of us sometimes get out of "full manual" when conditions call for it.

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Feb 24, 2020 21:27:24   #
Ed Broussard
 
A professional is one who gets paid for his work I worked in a camera shop for 20 year and do some photography on the side back then we were know as weekend warriors. Is am retired I had photography studio for 43 years only because of an automobile accident, and two back surgeries I feel I was quite successful. When digital came out I waited a while before I bought a camera, it did change the type of business and photography as a whole I went to high volume photography very lucrative but quite different from what I was doing before. People would ask are you a photographer when they see a camera around my neck at a wedding or other event, I would laugh inside at first I just say yes but after several hundred times. My answer would be yes I have a studio and I am a studio photographer. The reason being the general public would think I was, a fauxphotographer we had 12 studio in a town 150,000 now it’s now to three they all do high volume photography. A good photographer can make a photography with any camera unless you specialize in something like architecture or wildlife, or even landscape photography where requires special equipment. (Long or wide angle lenses, sturdy tripods a gimbals). It’s what six inches behind the camera that matters.

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Feb 24, 2020 21:30:21   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
frankraney wrote:
Hi Bill..... You missed my point..... Re read my statement.......


If it's the one about 10 people and street photography, I thought I got it
here.

If it's the one about "retired", well, that kinda blows a hole in the income differentiation, doesn't it!

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Feb 24, 2020 21:34:59   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Gilbert2019 wrote:
What is a photographer?

A photographer is an individual who sees beauty in the mundane. A photographer is an individual who walks at a slow pace, experiences life fully and vividly, and can capture fleeting moments with precision and poise.

A photographer is an individual who is always grateful to be alive, to have a pair of eyes, and to be able to visually decipher complexity in the world.

A photographer isn’t graded by how many cameras, lenses, awards, or books he/she has. Rather— a photographer is graded only be him/herself. A photographer never judges his/her work by how many likes they get on social media— a photographer judges him/herself based on how much personal satisfaction their photos bring them.

A photographer is one who takes visual risks. A photographer pushes to see the world in a unique and idiosyncratic way. A photographer tries to find novel combinations in the world— whether they be color, light, or shade.

A photographer finds excitement in ordinary places— whether they are at a grocery store, a mall, or in their own homes.

A photographer is always growing, developing, and refining his/her craft. A photographer isn’t satisfied with the work that they have already done— they are constantly pushing themselves to innovate and reinvent themselves. A photographer doesn’t believe in plateaus.

A photographer is one who can look in the mirror and find optimism and beauty in him/herself. A photographer doesn’t blame the external world for its shortcomings; only him/herself.

A photographer knows that the “grass is greener on his/her side”— rather than wanting to be in an “exotic” city like Paris, New York, or Tokyo.

A photographer is someone who makes a personal visual diary of his/her life— and bares their soul in their images.

Anyone can be a photographer, and everyone is a photographer.

You are a photographer— what kind of visual gifts will you present to the world today?

by Eric Kim
Artist-Philospher
https://erickimphotography.com/blog/2016/07/10/what-is-a-photographer/
What is a photographer? br br A photographer is a... (show quote)


love it.

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Feb 24, 2020 21:35:08   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
frankraney wrote:
So is aperature and shutter priority. My point was to answer the party about fast changing conditions and possibly missing a shot. All of us sometimes get out of "full manual" when conditions call for it.


And I was originally responding to someone who claimed professionals always shoot full manual, and that doesn't include auto ISO.

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Feb 24, 2020 21:44:19   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
And I was originally responding to someone who claimed professionals always shoot full manual, and that doesn't include auto ISO.

One must change ISO manually to be truly manual.

Talk about being stuck in a mode.

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Feb 24, 2020 21:46:52   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I don’t see anyone saying someone has to make 100% of their Income from photography, I’m saying they have to do at least some of their photography in a professional capacity to be considered a professional. That work may even be unpaid if they volunteer their services.


You also miss read..If..... Is a key word... I was being facetious.... There are several definitions of "professional photographer" over of which states that a professional makes 100% of his income, and an amateur makes 50%.

My statement started with "if". And I ended with "no".

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Feb 24, 2020 21:52:05   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Adamborz wrote:
Well I got through 7 pages then skipped to page 17... I’m an impatient photographer! 😎


And reader?

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Feb 24, 2020 21:57:24   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Longshadow wrote:
If it's the one about 10 people and street photography, I thought I got it
here.

If it's the one about "retired", well, that kinda blows a hole in the income differentiation, doesn't it!
If it's the one about 10 people and street photogr... (show quote)


Yes it does.... That was my point.... If the income makes one a professional (which is a definition), then is one no longer a professional when one retires..... Shooting a hole in that definition.

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Feb 24, 2020 21:59:32   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
And I was originally responding to someone who claimed professionals always shoot full manual, and that doesn't include auto ISO.


missed it... And I agree, professionals and others do not always shoot full manual.

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