Camera club competition judges.
Dec 30, 2019 18:57:21 #
BebuLamar wrote:
What do you think about the OP suggestion to let the contestant a minute to speak about his/her work? My opinion is not to let the photographer says anything.
It's not practical. At many competition judgings there is a large volume of prints to get through and that kind of arrangement would take up too much time. It could lead to arguments. Back and forth exchanges are more appropriate for classes, group or private mentoring.
Dec 31, 2019 05:34:50 #
Martin wrote:
I have belonged to a camera club for the past 12 y... (show quote)
What ChG Canon said!!!
Dec 31, 2019 06:14:22 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Martin wrote:
I have belonged to a camera club for the past 12 y... (show quote)
You are correct, photography contests are subjective. Put you big boy pants on and continue to compete. I have lost so many contests I have lost track. I only seem to remember the ones I won.
Dec 31, 2019 07:09:51 #
Martin wrote:
I have belonged to a camera club for the past 12 y... (show quote)
Do not let the judge even see or know who the photographer is.
Yes judges are totally subjective and cannot be objective no matter how much they deny it.
So enter for fun and display.
If the judges suck which is frequent no matter how pro they claim to be the people looking at the displays can quickly figure out if the judges were clueless or not.
Dec 31, 2019 07:26:53 #
quixdraw wrote:
Whatever "game" you are playing you need to understand the rules, develop skills and follow the lead of winners. Review the images that have won over the 12 years and use those as a selection criteria for your submissions. Better luck in the future!
Excellent advice& and stated without malice aforethought. Kudos RJM
Dec 31, 2019 07:41:58 #
Where are the training courses that I have seen mentioned by several people?
Dec 31, 2019 07:43:25 #
markinvictoria
Loc: Victoria TX
The camera club I belong to has a monthly competition. It's a digital competition judged by 6 club members picked randomly every month. The judging is done on line before our monthly meeting. At the meetings...all photos are shown with their scores and are open for discussion. The judges don't know who took the photos till the meeting.
Dec 31, 2019 08:01:01 #
Howard5252 wrote:
Where are the training courses that I have seen mentioned by several people?
Join the PSA. Once you are a member they offer a 10-12 week (lesson) training course with a one to one mentor. The course is free to members and will open your eyes greatly. My mentor was fun, informative and I learned a great deal. The president of PSA even reviewed some of my critiques and we carried on a dialogue. That was years ago, I now serve as a PSA judge for international competitions. It is always a great experience working with fellow judges from around the world. You learn how to critique images (you have to have reasons just just opinions) and be open minded.
Larry
Dec 31, 2019 08:14:20 #
BebuLamar wrote:
My opinion is not to let the photographer says anything.
I agree, even when the judge is wrong.
I had a judge complain about the way I used PS to add snow. In actuality the shot was taken during a snow storm.
A friend was told what he had done wrong when shooting fish in a tank. He was scuba diving when he took the shot.
That just proves that not everybody sees the same thing when they look at a photo.
If you can't accept that, keep your pictures to yourself.
Dec 31, 2019 08:26:24 #
There is a huge difference between camera club competitions and fine art photography.
If you look at the professional photographers, many would get terrible scores by camera club judges.
I submitted a photo of a leopard on a tree, sitting with her tail hanging. The judge wanted me to crop the image and move the tail...wtf!!! I just laughed at the ignorance of the judge, clearly not a wildlife expert.
If you look at the professional photographers, many would get terrible scores by camera club judges.
I submitted a photo of a leopard on a tree, sitting with her tail hanging. The judge wanted me to crop the image and move the tail...wtf!!! I just laughed at the ignorance of the judge, clearly not a wildlife expert.
Dec 31, 2019 08:32:06 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you have to tell a story on why it's a keeper, it's likely not a keeper ...
As usual, another CHG_CANONism by the great one!
If a judge deems a photograph less than worthy of an award perhaps it is incumbent of the photographer to take this as critique rather than criticism.
Over the years, a lot of my photographs have never made it past the camera.
When your photograph does not win an award, you should ask the judges why?
Remember, it is not important to be better than another. It is important to be better than we once were.
Happy Shooting!
Dec 31, 2019 08:38:36 #
I stopped sending images to a competition a long time ago. I have never been able to understand how from hundreds of photographs judges are able to select one as the best. I have seen those "best" and I would have been ashamed if it was my image.
Yes, photography is very subjective. When I am happy with my shot that is all that matters to me.
Yes, photography is very subjective. When I am happy with my shot that is all that matters to me.
Dec 31, 2019 08:46:18 #
Martin wrote:
. . .I will no longer enter my images in competition. Have any others had or has the same complaint?
Yes - I’ve had this very same experience. The only thing I would add is about the judges’ comments. Generally, their comment are vapid, shallow, and meaningless. Once in a while I hear a reasonable comment from a judge, but most of the time they say the obvious but add nothing that relates the rating to the reality of the image being judged.
Dec 31, 2019 09:00:00 #
gvarner
Loc: Central Oregon Coast
If you’re submitting a photo for competition, you’re already biased in its merit. Their job is to apply an unbiased approach to evaluating it "from their viewpoint". Our club always has a period for critique of a photo where anyone could weigh in on it but not to submit it for competition. Perhaps that would be more useful to you.
Dec 31, 2019 09:10:35 #
There are so many variables when it comes to photo competitions that it's almost impossible to speak to all of them. My suggestion for your camera club would be to hold periodic critique sessions in which anyone can submit an image. Those who attend will only learn, even if it is learning what that particular group as a whole considers worthy of competition or of honors.
I see all good advice has been given.
I see all good advice has been given.
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