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Dec 18, 2019 08:35:40   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The Canon EOS RP is revolutionary because it's the world's least expensive full-frame mirrorless camera by a huge margin, and it's also the newest and the best regardless of price for what we shoot on mirrorless. ~ Ken Rockwel, 2019, https://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm

What could you possible think is so extraordinary in a Sony 24MP mirrorless body that would justify changing / ignoring either of Canon's two FF mirrorless offerings, with more EOS mirrorless bodies in the pending release queue?
i The Canon EOS RP is revolutionary because it's ... (show quote)


Plus you can use your current Canon glass on the Canon R & RP with the adapter with no loss of function.
Also the Canon R & RP control and menus will be familiar.
Because I own/use the Canon RP, IMHO the Canon RP is a bargain at $999..
Like CHG_CANON said ..."it's also the newest and the best regardless of price for what we shoot on mirrorless.[/i] ~ Ken Rockwel, 2019, https://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm
Smile,
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Dec 18, 2019 08:45:08   #
JanSIrons Loc: Central Illinois USA
 
I switched from a Canon EOS T7i to a Sony A7iii back in May. I took some of my photos into the now defunct Creve Couer Camera shop in St Louis, showed them to the photographer/salespeople. My biggest concern was the lack of sharp detail. Everyone agreed the crop sensor had alot to do with my issues and unilaterally opined for a full frame sensor - could have been a sales ploy but I didn't get that impression - they could have sold me a new Canon lens as easily as a Sony A7iii. In the past I wanted a full frame Canon but they were just too big & heavy for my photography style (travel, hiking, exploring - mostly handheld). I "store tested" all the available mirrorless and settled on the Sony. I added a Sigma MC-11 adapter so I could use a couple of my Canon lenses.

It didn't take long for the PIA Sony menu system to become almost 2nd nature & I'm comfortable with it. I'm glad I made the switch.

Did it make me a better photographer? Probably not, but I'm loving the setup & how easy it is to carry - especially with the nifty 50. :)

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Dec 18, 2019 09:05:14   #
tomcat
 
Whatever brand you choose, I would suggest that you rent one for a weekend and shoot a ton of images to get an idea of the ergonomics. I have been using the Nikon Z6 for sports shooting and it is a gem in low light. However, after an hour of shooting, my hand gets really cramped and hurts from the awkward positioning of my hand during vertical shots. The camera is too small for my hand for extended vertical shooting and needs a vertical shutter release button like the pro DSLRs have. The battery case made for these does not have that button.

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Dec 18, 2019 09:43:44   #
Canisdirus
 
billnikon wrote:
Unfortunately many here believe just that.


Because it is true in a way.
If you are a good photographer .... and I am a good photographer ... and you use a camera not as capable as mine ... I'm going to come away with more images that are keepers.

It makes a difference to those who can utilize that advantage.
You can be a fantastic photographer, but you are still at a disadvantage if you don't keep up with the best tools for your projects.

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Dec 18, 2019 09:45:17   #
carney2
 
I've always put a lot of stock in Ken Rockwell's reviews of equipment. He called the A7 III "dollar for dollar the best mirrorless camera ever made." Of course, that was more than a year ago and time marches on. Anyway, my Sherpa forced me ditch my bulky Nikon equipment and I took Mr. Rockwell's advice. Haven't looked back.

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Dec 18, 2019 09:51:10   #
LeslieL
 
I have the Sony a7111 I was using a Nikon d500 and a Nikon d750
I love the Sony for the obvious reason that it is easier to handle and I find the controls to be user friendly.
Of course I don’t find it better than the DSLR cameras just a nice addition.
I take pictures of dogs and cats at an animal shelter to use on social media so it’s nice to have a lighter weight camera sometimes. Just my opinion 😁

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Dec 18, 2019 10:11:02   #
Allie
 
islandboy4147 wrote:
I love the features of the Sony A73 III and an seriously considering buying one. I am a longtime Canon user and would prefer to stay in the Canon family for simplicity of standardized equipment and operation. My other choice would be the Canon R, but it doesn't match up to the Sony technology. Unless Canon reveals a new model soon, I am having trouble resisting, at this time, the Sony technology.
What are some of the opinions of users with experience in this.


I am debating whether to buy the Sony A7ii, it has many of the same features as the A7iii and at half the cost. Am asking for opinions as to whether the A7iii is worth the extra cost and under which conditions.

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Dec 18, 2019 10:16:59   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
islandboy4147 wrote:
I love the features of the Sony A73 III and an seriously considering buying one. I am a longtime Canon user and would prefer to stay in the Canon family for simplicity of standardized equipment and operation. My other choice would be the Canon R, but it doesn't match up to the Sony technology. Unless Canon reveals a new model soon, I am having trouble resisting, at this time, the Sony technology.
What are some of the opinions of users with experience in this.


I would wait as I think Canon has a very big surprise coming with respect to a camera body with 100+ MP's in the works. They already have superior lenses waiting for a better body and better focus-tracking abilities.
Review the Ken Rockwell & Tony Northrup videos on the Canon Mirrorless systems in the works. Canon produced a 400 MP camera(DSLR) for testing in 2015 so they have been sitting on that technology for some time now and we are waiting for the debut.......hopefully soon....HURRY UP PLEASE !

Hope Springs Eternal !

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Dec 18, 2019 10:23:46   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"I am having trouble resisting, at this time, the Sony technology."

A frequent statement in this and other forums is that what is important is the photographer. A camera is simply a tool and we are responsible for the way it takes and makes photography. The camera matters if it has the features we need, not necessarily its technology.
I do not know what camera you own at present but if your camera is not yielding the results you want I seriously doubt it the new camera will make you better, regardless of technology.

"Concentrate on technology and your images will be technically superior. Concentrate on seeing the nuisances of light and your pictures will stir the soul." Jack Dykinga.

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Dec 18, 2019 10:27:15   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Successful photographers do the one thing the unsuccessful are unwilling to do: they buy a new camera.

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Dec 18, 2019 10:30:41   #
daf40 Loc: Mesa, AZ
 
Two years ago I switched from a lifetime of Canon cameras to a Sony mirrorless. While it's a great camera, I'm still struggling with an unfamiliar menu system and the unfamiliar nomenclature used by Sony. It's been a major learning curve. In retrospect, I wish I had switched to a Canon mirrorless.

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Dec 18, 2019 10:32:52   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
I'm a long time Nikon shooter and while I still love my Nikons, (D500 and D7200), early this year I picked up a Panasonic Lumix G9 for travel and shooting in places where the size and weight savings made shooting the G9 less cumbersome than my Nikons. While there are situations that I prefer the Nikons for the G9 has become my go to camera. Besides being the quality, both from a manufacturing and technical standpoint, they seem to get the ergonomics better than anyone else. It's just a joy to shoot with. If I were to go full frame mirrorless I would be really torn between a Nikon Z7 and and the Lumix S1R. The one thing that would give the Z7 an edge is availability/expense of glass.

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Dec 18, 2019 10:34:33   #
islandboy4147 Loc: Savannah, GA
 
wdross wrote:
Both Canon and Nikon are playing catch up compared to Sony, Olympus, and Panasonic. If I were you, I would wait for the next generation mirrorless Canon camera and see if it met my needs at that time. If not, that would be the time to switch in my opinion.


This is the exactly my thinking at this time. It’s well worth waiting to see if Canon can improve their technology. Sony has certainly raised the bar for mirrorless.

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Dec 18, 2019 10:39:50   #
islandboy4147 Loc: Savannah, GA
 
Thanks for all the replies to my search for making a decision on these two cameras. I like the point-counterpoint discussion on the merits of the two cameras. I will still continue to weigh all the options and wait until after the first of the year for new releases.

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Dec 18, 2019 10:41:02   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Allie wrote:
I am debating whether to buy the Sony A7ii, it has many of the same features as the A7iii and at half the cost. Am asking for opinions as to whether the A7iii is worth the extra cost and under which conditions.


I have a a7ii, not the a7iii. I bought the a7II used and if I had it to do over, I would have giving more consideration to the a7III based on two features: the silent shooting mode and improved battery life. Would those features be worth twice the price? To me, no, I wouldn't make a different decision today. But, they may be to you.

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