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Dec 16, 2019 16:47:10   #
aggiedad Loc: Corona, ca
 
Why not buy greeting card stock snd do the printing yourself?

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Dec 16, 2019 17:39:26   #
laospears
 
I have done that in the past but I prefer this method..... When you get really old, sometimes you find easier ways of doing things 🙃

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Dec 16, 2019 18:26:05   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Carusoswi wrote:
I used my photo editor to convert my daughter's cell phone photo so that the Walgreen's card ap would accept (her previous attempts returned a message that the resolution was too low).

I also provided my wife with two photos shot in RAW with my Sony A900, processed with darktable, then exported to 100% quality jpg's for her use in ordering holiday cards.

In both cases, photos that looked good viewed on a number of computer/tablet screens turned out with much less vibrance on the products returned from the vendors. Can anyone shed advice on this process. Do I need to provide photos that are processed with some sort of 'over-compensation' to yield pleasing results, or is this just the nature of the territory when ordering cards including photos from these types of vendors?

For what it's worth, I have received several similar greeting cards, and those photos look similar to the results we have experienced.

Next year, I will be looking for alternative sources unless I can figure out how to get what we see on the screen after editing a photo to appear on the final product that we order from the vendor(s).

Advice welcome.

Caruso
I used my photo editor to convert my daughter's ce... (show quote)


If you had posted sample files with the STORE ORIGINAL box checked, we could offer detailed analysis and potential solutions...

But here's the shotgun approach.

"Less vibrant" prints from a lab have several causes.

First, is your monitor calibrated and custom profiled with a hardware/software kit made for that?

Specifically, is your monitor calibrated at a color temperature around 5800K, black level 0.5 cd/m^2, and white point of 80 to 120 cd/m^2? Too-bright monitors cause you to adjust your files for too-dark prints!

Second, is your JPEG profile set to sRGB, and not Adobe RGB or ProPhoto RGB? Many labs make an assumption that every file is in the sRGB color space. Printing an Adobe RGB file with sRGB will make prints that are flat, dull, and greenish.

How much adjustment did you do to color and brightness controls in post-processing software? If your monitor isn't spot-on calibration and its profile isn't right, you'll likely see color and brightness shifts in the opposite direction.

UNSOLICITED RANT:

There is a lot of animosity toward random brands of labs here. It is highly likely that if you address the points above, you won't need to blame your lab any more! MOST photo labs at least try to maintain some reasonable standards for their output. If you send them fouled-up files, it's really hard to get what you want.

I've been on both sides of the fence, as a photographer, and as manager of a color correction department in a high volume lab. You should see some of the crap we received from customers — and they were professionals!

I spent lots of time educating customers about white balance, monitor calibration, soft proofing, and exposure. Those who understood how those affect their photos, and began to pay close attention to them, and CONTROL them, got really accurate color. The others just whined about how good film had been. (It wasn't! Pro labs just saved their butts for them. We all stopped doing that when digital imaging came of age. Labs can't get the same kind of quality by adjusting JPEGs that we got by analyzing film negs. And labs don't take raw files, because they're all proprietary, and lab software can't handle them.)

In short, color quality is UP TO YOU.

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Dec 16, 2019 22:22:34   #
Boris77
 
Carusoswi wrote:
I used my photo editor to convert my daughter's cell phone photo so that the Walgreen's card ap would accept (her previous attempts returned a message that the resolution was too low).

I also provided my wife with two photos shot in RAW with my Sony A900, processed with darktable, then exported to 100% quality jpg's for her use in ordering holiday cards.

In both cases, photos that looked good viewed on a number of computer/tablet screens turned out with much less vibrance on the products returned from the vendors. Can anyone shed advice on this process. Do I need to provide photos that are processed with some sort of 'over-compensation' to yield pleasing results, or is this just the nature of the territory when ordering cards including photos from these types of vendors?

For what it's worth, I have received several similar greeting cards, and those photos look similar to the results we have experienced.

Next year, I will be looking for alternative sources unless I can figure out how to get what we see on the screen after editing a photo to appear on the final product that we order from the vendor(s).

Advice welcome.

Caruso
I used my photo editor to convert my daughter's ce... (show quote)


Do you ever print the pictures you want to use on paper?
No matter how an electronic device is calibrated, transparent pictures have an advantage over flat prints. I worked many years as a graphic artist evaluating customer copy for process printing. While we all made judgements of content, color and quality on the monitor, NOTHING went to press without a paper proof signed by the customer.

1. Assuming that what you want is a good looking card, not an accurate color match, test print your pictures on a paper similar to the finished cards. Evaluate and improve them.
2. Get a test print from the source, if you can. Compare to your print as a learning experience.
Their proof may not be a finished print, but it is a commitment from the printer.
3. Repeat year after year, because there is a lot of crap out there. (That is why I print my own cards.)
If you go cheap, using a picture you satisfactorily home proofed, give yourself time to reject/have the cards reprinted, or go to another printer.
Boris

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Dec 24, 2019 19:09:13   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Carusoswi wrote:
I used my photo editor to convert my daughter's cell phone photo so that the Walgreen's card ap would accept (her previous attempts returned a message that the resolution was too low).

I also provided my wife with two photos shot in RAW with my Sony A900, processed with darktable, then exported to 100% quality jpg's for her use in ordering holiday cards.

In both cases, photos that looked good viewed on a number of computer/tablet screens turned out with much less vibrance on the products returned from the vendors. Can anyone shed advice on this process. Do I need to provide photos that are processed with some sort of 'over-compensation' to yield pleasing results, or is this just the nature of the territory when ordering cards including photos from these types of vendors?

For what it's worth, I have received several similar greeting cards, and those photos look similar to the results we have experienced.

Next year, I will be looking for alternative sources unless I can figure out how to get what we see on the screen after editing a photo to appear on the final product that we order from the vendor(s).

Advice welcome.

Caruso
I used my photo editor to convert my daughter's ce... (show quote)


It may depend on the specific store (or your monitor). I have had excellent results with my local Walgreens with prints from 5x7 to 20x30. They have a no-questions-asked make-good policy. If there's anything you don't like, they'll do it over until you're satisfied. They once printed 120 holiday cards a second time for me because the snow was gray instead of white. The reprints were perfect.

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