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Oct 31, 2019 11:48:18   #
Paul J. Svetlik Loc: Colorado
 
Tommy, this is a very good landscape image!
I enjoy these high definition scenes like this one very much!
The birch branches (as Linda mentioned) are not obstructing the eye at all because the brain will easily fill up the rest of the image and bring more of the depth.

I see a puzzle, though: Why the lower spruce branches are in focus, but the more dominant. the highest branch is not? The same goes for the right hand spruce branch which is also out of focus.
This image framing you use should be visually explained - that is - spruce branches on both sides should be all in focus?
A tripod and and a higher aperture?
Thank you for sharing!

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Oct 31, 2019 12:42:30   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
Paul J. Svetlik wrote:

This image framing you use should be visually explained - that is - spruce branches on both sides should be all in focus?
A tripod and and a higher aperture?
Thank you for sharing!


You know, Paul, I see your point, and a higher aperture would likely have helped with that! I didn't really notice the focus discrepancy until you pointed it out, but now I see it and think an aperture adjustment would have been the ticket! Thank you very much for your observation, and I appreciate how willing folks are to help me learn more about this marvelous obsession called photography!


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Oct 31, 2019 12:45:33   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
gvarner wrote:
I’d clone out the dead tree branches.


"That tree isn't dead, it's just asleep..." (apologies to Monty Python and their dead parrot routine )

It is a live birch that has shed its leaves for the winter...

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Oct 31, 2019 13:03:16   #
LESTAHL Loc: Colorado
 
My eye was taken to bank of the two streams coming together in the center of the photo. I started looking around and my eye was taken to the sun in the clouds. Continuing to look I realized the birch branch was pointing to the sun. Personally, I wouldn't do anything to this, it is a complete photo.

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Oct 31, 2019 15:38:20   #
deayala1 Loc: Pleasanton, CA
 
Clone out the bottom branches

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Oct 31, 2019 15:41:29   #
jerseymike
 
tommystrat wrote:
I took this image trying to get a feeling of being in a forest with the "breakout" scene of the river and sky just beyond where I was standing. That's why the birch tree branches are prominent in the foreground. (Not talking about the pine on the far left - that stays!) Do you think this would potentially be more effective if I cloned out the branches and just kept the pine trees, river and sky? Are the birch branches distracting or do they support the feel I was trying to get? Appreciate any and all constructive comments and opinions. Thanks!
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For me I think the removal of the tree branches would add more to the following the water path. To me the branches are an obstruction of a clean line.

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Oct 31, 2019 16:37:30   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
tommystrat wrote:
I took this image trying to get a feeling of being in a forest with the "breakout" scene of the river and sky just beyond where I was standing. That's why the birch tree branches are prominent in the foreground. (Not talking about the pine on the far left - that stays!) Do you think this would potentially be more effective if I cloned out the branches and just kept the pine trees, river and sky? Are the birch branches distracting or do they support the feel I was trying to get? Appreciate any and all constructive comments and opinions. Thanks!
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You mean "crop", not "clone", right?

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Oct 31, 2019 17:12:06   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
nadelewitz wrote:
You mean "crop", not "clone", right?


No, I mean to use the Clone Stamp and Content-Aware Fill tools in PS to remove the branches of the birch tree in the middle of the image. Cropping would not remove those branches.

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Oct 31, 2019 18:36:14   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
tommystrat wrote:
I took this image trying to get a feeling of being in a forest with the "breakout" scene of the river and sky just beyond where I was standing. That's why the birch tree branches are prominent in the foreground. (Not talking about the pine on the far left - that stays!) Do you think this would potentially be more effective if I cloned out the branches and just kept the pine trees, river and sky? Are the birch branches distracting or do they support the feel I was trying to get? Appreciate any and all constructive comments and opinions. Thanks!
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I'd leave it alone. What you saw is what you got!

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Oct 31, 2019 18:50:59   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
tommystrat wrote:
I took this image trying to get a feeling of being in a forest with the "breakout" scene of the river and sky just beyond where I was standing. That's why the birch tree branches are prominent in the foreground. (Not talking about the pine on the far left - that stays!) Do you think this would potentially be more effective if I cloned out the branches and just kept the pine trees, river and sky? Are the birch branches distracting or do they support the feel I was trying to get? Appreciate any and all constructive comments and opinions. Thanks!
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Definitely loose that tree.

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Oct 31, 2019 19:18:58   #
MichaelEBM Loc: Los Angeles CA
 
tommystrat wrote:
. . .Do you think this would potentially be more effective if I cloned out the branches and just kept the pine trees, river and sky? Are the birch branches distracting or do they support the feel I was trying to get?


I think you are absolutely right that entirely cloning out the birch branches would only leave you with "just another vanilla tree / water / sky landscape." But cloning out the top of the birch is important as has been noted. However, I think your "haircut" was a bit severe. I would suggest just cloning the upper tips of the feathery branches on the right (to leave some "headroom" there) and also the main branch but only to just below the tiny branch that goes off to the left. This puts some of the birch into the sky at the top but still gives it a little breathing space. I'm all for including the environment of a scene around the "hero" of the shot, and for that the birch branches are important.

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Nov 1, 2019 11:11:08   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
MichaelEBM wrote:
I think you are absolutely right that entirely cloning out the birch branches would only leave you with "just another vanilla tree / water / sky landscape." But cloning out the top of the birch is important as has been noted. However, I think your "haircut" was a bit severe. I would suggest just cloning the upper tips of the feathery branches on the right (to leave some "headroom" there) and also the main branch but only to just below the tiny branch that goes off to the left. This puts some of the birch into the sky at the top but still gives it a little breathing space. I'm all for including the environment of a scene around the "hero" of the shot, and for that the birch branches are important.
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Good suggestion - I'll give that a try! Thanks!

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