Your message here is far more important than the actual work, though I like it a lot! Thank you so much for this gift.
The post processing recently seen, whether in the style of (e.g., Lighting) in a photo portrait, or the various manipulations above, are all creative, and are not "faux," like a single painting filter is. They do not try to be some other medium, like painting, but are clearly using the media of camera and post processing to create something.
The best ones use the techniques to create a strong intent, e.g., E.L. Shapiro’s two flower-derived pieces, #1 expressing flowing beauty through composition and shape, #3 expressing explosiveness, using shape, composition, and color.
# 2 puzzles because the shapes are a mixture of solid flowing (background, right), airy flowing (background left) sculptural (tablecloth front), and simple solid (objects on table). Fun to look at, but “just” “interesting” (a no-no word to use if talking to an artist, for what it’s worth). #4 is just crazy fun, but, again, is more “interesting" than communicating meaning.
Linda’s is, as she describes, comforting in its warm glow. That, too, is nice, and would be termed Popular Art or Decorative Art. A fine category if you want to be there, of course.
All of the examples above are quite a few steps away from trying to make a photo look like another medium, something you would not want to do for Fine Art.
I hope all of the above is understood as explanation/information. What a person choses to do is part of their freedom, and we truly and obviously do need all types/categories in all the arts, musical, dance, performing, as well as visual art.
dannac
Loc: 60 miles SW of New Orleans
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
I have been experimenting with a water color wash kinda look.
Love the first three ... last one not so much.
dannac
Loc: 60 miles SW of New Orleans
artBob wrote:
The best ones use the techniques to create a strong intent, e.g., E.L. Shapiro’s two flower-derived pieces, #1 expressing flowing beauty through composition and shape, #3 expressing explosiveness, using shape, composition, and color.
# 2 puzzles because the shapes are a mixture of solid flowing (background, right), airy flowing (background left) sculptural (tablecloth front), and simple solid (objects on table). Fun to look at, but “just” “interesting” (a no-no word to use if talking to an artist, for what it’s worth). #4 is just crazy fun, but, again, is more “interesting" than communicating meaning.
Linda’s is, as she describes, comforting in its warm glow. That, too, is nice, and would be termed Popular Art or Decorative Art. A fine category if you want to be there, of course.
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... or you could just say, "they look good"
Linda From Maine wrote:
Neat! Can you explain a bit about your process?
Yes- OK! I'll let you in on Ed's quick and dirty fly by night post-processing techniques. My "much better than me" computer guy calls it" Cheap Eddie's Trick Photograhy"- I get no respect!
I do my experimental and fun work on an Android tablet. This device has caused me to become an "app addict"- there are at least a dozen of them on my tablet and cellphone.
My favorites are "Snapseed" which is kinda like a portable PhotoShop/Lightroom program whereby I can control density, white balance, contrast, saturation, and composition among othere handy tools (see screenshot). "Tool Wiz Photo" has a number of unique special effects possibilities as does "Super Photo" with an especially nice "oil painting" effect. "Prisma" is kinda extreme but it's fun and it too is controllable as to the intensity of the presets.
The trick is not depending on preset filters but to use the sliders and take control of the image management. I may run any given image through 3 or more various apps to achieve the effect I am looking for. Nonetheless, the usual processing time is less than 15 minutes per image
I can tether the camera to the phone or tablet.
Some of this work is just for my own amusement and some have found its way into my commercial work. The house shot was a cover image for a brochure on old, heritage and fixer-upper houses for a real estate company. The flowers ended up on the jacket of a book on horticulture.
The apps I mention here are free downloads and do not carry advertising. Some offer a premium version with more functionality and high definition output at very nominal costs.
My food and beverage and architectural commercial work, quite frequently, take me out of my home city so I find this device is very portable and handy when I am on the road and require quick edits. As for tethering, it is less cumbersome than a laptop or desktop PC.
At the studio, we have a fairly elaborate PC and MAC setup with Topaz software in addition to Lightroom and Photoshop, however, frankly, I have an IT and retouching operator in our finishing room and I try to stay out of there- too many years in the darkroom!
Thanks very much, Ed. What I hope folks will take away from this discussion ("Photo to Oil Painting - part II") is that people should be encouraged to begin their "playful pp" journey in whatever way they choose. They may discover an inner talent that previously had no outlet (I'm thinking of the amazing artistry of UHH user kenievans, who only picked up a camera and a PhotoShop subscription a few years ago), or they may decide that one-click effects and pre-sets are just simple, clean fun to while away a rainy afternoon.
Below is one of my first efforts with Topaz Simplify and I still love it. Who cares if it was created in a matter of minutes, with a lot of luck. It makes me smile. The end 🤗
WDCash
Loc: Milford, Delaware, USA
Linda From Maine wrote:
Thanks very much, Ed. What I hope folks will take away from this discussion ("Photo to Oil Painting - part II") is that people should be encouraged to begin their "playful pp" journey in whatever way they choose. They may discover an inner talent that previously had no outlet (I'm thinking of the amazing artistry of UHH user kenievans, who only picked up a camera and a PhotoShop subscription a few years ago), or they may decide that one-click effects and pre-sets are just simple, clean fun to while away a rainy afternoon.
Below is one of my first efforts with Topaz Simplify and I still love it. Who cares if it was created in a matter of minutes, with a lot of luck. It makes me smile. The end 🤗
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I can picture this hanging in dozens of summet homes.
dannac wrote:
... or you could just say, "they look good"
No, I couldn't "just say, 'they look good'." That would be a baseless personal opinion. I give the artistic reasons as I know them, which can lead to a discussion or might even help someone understand their work.
Linda From Maine wrote:
Your message here is far more important than the actual work, though I like it a lot! Thank you so much for this gift.
Thank you Linda From Maine for the comments back then and now. But I've been working on perfecting this process since the late 70's and I'm not willing to divulge this technique. What I can say, it that one needs to first have the photograph printed on canvas then work from there.
WDCash wrote:
I can picture this hanging in dozens of summer homes.
Thank you. If I had a summer home, maybe on a lake in Maine, I do believe I'd put the pic in it
Bokehen wrote:
Thank you Linda From Maine for the comments back then and now. But I've been working on perfecting this process since the late 70's and I'm not willing to divulge this technique. What I can say, it that one needs to first have the photograph printed on canvas then work from there.
It is good to look at Bokehen's work (
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-569435-1.html) in comparison to any of the examples of "Oil Painting" programs shown here. After 5 or 10 minutes, the observer should be able to see the difference between Art and faux art related to painting.
Again, you falter me Robert as you've done before with my Teddy Bear image. If anyone wants to get into or do as I've done, it will take time and practice and finding the right supplies. This process will not happen over night. The flowers of fall image was completed in 2014 after several years of working on this. As I've said and to those whom know what I face, I'm not whole anymore and it's an extreme challenge to do anything these days. One good thing about painting.. is it doesn't matter that my hands shake as they do. People like Robert and Linda encourage me as well as others. Seek your dream and don't give up even if "others" tell you "you don't know what you're doing"
The Flowers of Fall was done using a limited pallet of colors or all the colors I could scrounge. I'm always looking for paint and supplies. But the wave art has really drain me and I turn to photography for a while.
Let me COIN a phrase of make up a new word to add to "photo-slang"!
Marketing or branding ya know!
I have been trying to decide on a name for my experiments in "imitating", real art. I thought of "Hybridography" but that's too automotive so I settled on "FAUXTOGRAPHY"!
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