E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
I'll use a phrase that I heard on television the other day but perhaps it will be better received in this context. "GET OVER IT"- photography, over time has changed as has other disciplines like music, literature, science and many other visual arts. There is a great deal of CROSSOVER. In many creative fields, there is orthodox, classical, modern, contemporary, popular, and avant-garde. Add some fad, kitsch, fashion, and uniqueness and you have one hell of a smorgasbord! There is pure photography, AKA fine art, computer art, special effects. commercial photography, and many sub-specialties and the lines between these categories have become thinner as time goes on.
Another epiphany for some of the folks around here is that the practitioners of all of these crafts are human beings, each with the own talents, strengths, levels of skill and know-how, philosophies, ideas and concepts, and all that good stuff that goes on in their brains. Not everyone wants to do the same things the same way. Not everyone is in it for the same reasons, motivations, or intentions. We are not performing brain surgery or dealing with nuclear weapons so if someone does things or likes things differently from your own ways, just "get over it"!
Surprisingly, old dogs can learn new tricks and young dogs could benefit from some old tricks.
Let me share a brief biographical snippet. In my youth, I decided to enroll in a photography program at a rather prestigious college in Philadelphia-at the time connected with the Philadelphia Museum. My classes were in the "Commercial Art" faculty, however, we were required to take certain classes in the "Fine Arts" department. The culture clash was insane- the "artistes" called us "prostitutes", and I won't write what our group retorted. This craziness seemed to exist among some of this profs and the students as well! I lasted one semester, ran off, joined the army and went to war- in a way it was more peaceful there. Sometimes around this forum it's kida deja vu!
Play nice!
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Good story. Each group tends to not lie/trust the other. That is why I always suggest a person accept facts without putting down another group, up-status or down-status. I went to a school that had an Art college and an Engineering college. The restroom in the commons had some very interesting, opposing graffiti!
I have noticed in this discussion a dollop of seeming defensiveness by those who do not practice Fine Art photography. Having done both Fine and Commercial myself, having counseled literally thousands of students, I suggest being comfortable with what you really want to do, and just try to be better at it, through your efforts and learning from others. The saying "A wise man can learn from anybody, even a fool; but a fool can learn from nobody, even a wise man" exists at all levels of photography. Serenity, challenge, creativity, and freedom are available to all.