To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing.
Longshadow wrote:
Well, yes, if it has had all the processing it requires done in camera, then its SOOC.
Still processed, just not after it left the camera.
(Film does not permit doing that. More attaboys given for attaining unadjusted printability from a film camera.)
Yes, SOOC, not processed in any way after leaving camera. every time you enter a photo in a contest you have to state that it has not been processed after it left the camera. If it has then it goes into a different group called post processed..
Why is this so hard for people to get?
CHG_CANON wrote:
To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing.
except the last......hehe
Retina
Loc: Near Charleston,SC
repleo wrote:
If I take a shot with my phone camera and process it on the phone with the Lightroom app, is it SOOC ? (Straight Out Of Camera). What if I use one of the Scene modes on my regular camera and the camera does the processing? My Sony has an app that allows me to set up three areas with different exposures and color temperatures in the same shot and blends them in-camera. Is that SOOC? Is it really any different to letting the camera process an Auto jpeg? What about in-camera lens correction or HDR?
Is letting some engineer in Japan determine how my image is supposed to look any more purist than me deciding how I want it to look?
If I take a shot with my phone camera and process ... (
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Most use the term to distinguish between JPG from the camera vs RAW with PP. At least to me, SOOC can include some leveling followed with the necessary cropping, and in some cases correcting for severe convergence/divergence (due to the sensor being planar.) Adjustments to saturation, hues, shadows, highlights, "sharpness", etc. take it out of the realm of SOOC. The one exception would be to pre-compensate for a particular printer or print service. Again, this is how I understand the term.
Aside from the OP's question, and begging Linda's forgiveness, cameras vary so much in their ability to convert sensor data to JPG that a very good SOOC photo in a challenging light situation tells me two things: how well the camera handles does it and how well the photographer knows the camera's JPG settings. I can't get too judgmental about SOOC vs PP any more than wishing seating sections were based on sensor size. Different skill sets are involved. Each approach has its own set of advantages and disadvantages. In case CHG_CANON is still here, I quote Mark Twain with a bit of dodging and burning: "I've used SOOC and I've use Post. Post is better".
There are no rules for good photographs, great photographs have just one: the photoshop work is exquisite.
CHG_CANON wrote:
To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing.
I'm working on it!.....(Some here probably think I'm there already....π)
Who cares! Just use your camera for what it is meant for.... take photos!
Cwilson341 wrote:
ππ
Page 10 and counting - plenty of time!
Linda From Maine wrote:
Page 10 and counting - plenty of time!
SOOC or tarred with PP matters not a jot to me. All I want to do is help out with the page count which is far more interesting than the original pointless argument
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
Blenheim Orange wrote:
JPEG is far better than full frame, and you should always use a lens hood rather than a tripod.
Mike
And wear a hat. Don't forget the hat. Real photographers wear hats. Anyone can carry a camera, but the insiders can tell a real photographer because he/she is wearing a hat!
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
jerryc41 wrote:
But there are only to pages so far. Maybe someone will have an idea that has never been presented.
The day is still young. Check back tomorrow - there will be at least 15 pages, and that's without Chris T chiming in even . . .
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