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Oct 24, 2019 16:39:31   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Graham Smith wrote:
SOOC or tarred with PP matters not a jot to me. All I want to do is help out with the page count which is far more interesting than the original pointless argument
LOL. But I did get one thing wrong: there has been very little arguing - a good day for friendly conversation, I guess: no full moon in sight!

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Oct 24, 2019 16:40:21   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Obviously, it means straight out of the camera. Take the picture, upload it to a computer, and there it is - straight out of the camera. No mystery. It doesn't matter what the camera does to it. If the camera did no processing, you'd have nothing but thousands of 1s and 0s.


Then why is it not called SOOTC? Now that would make more sense, don't you agree?

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Oct 24, 2019 16:41:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Gene51 wrote:
And wear a hat. Don't forget the hat. Real photographers wear hats. Anyone can carry a camera, but the insiders can tell a real photographer because he/she is wearing a hat!


Ooo, ooo, ooo.

I have an original Charlie One Horse, will that work?

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Oct 24, 2019 16:43:36   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Gene51 wrote:
Then why is it not called SOOTC? Now that would make more sense, don't you agree?

I still like ICPO.
(In Camera Processing Only)

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Oct 24, 2019 16:43:51   #
L-Fox
 
There is a tide in the affairs of men, Which taken at the flood, leads on to fortune. Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries. On such a full sea are we now afloat. And we must take the current when it serves, or lose our ventures.

Translated....Ya gotta do whatcha gotta do.

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Oct 24, 2019 16:44:58   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
billnikon wrote:
Really? Sorry, this thread will do nothing to improve my knowledge and skill level. I will leave it to the uninformed to continue this tripe.


Is that the reason you're here? Really?

Hey, I like tripe. Trippa ala Marinara made by my favorite Italian restaurant, Dom and Vinnie's. Their tripe is transformational . . . Don't knock tripe. . . or mistake it for the content of this thread.

The only correct answer is SOOC is meaningless. Polaroid is the only true SOOTC. And I am officially changing SOOC to SOOTC, btw.

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Oct 24, 2019 16:46:01   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Retina wrote:
All this time I thought SOOC meant Straight Out Of a Computer.


No, that would be SOOAC

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Oct 24, 2019 16:47:51   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
russelray wrote:
However, in today's digital world, a digital picture has to be processed ('cooked') in order to view it. So if one personally doesn't do any cooking, one is simply accepting the cooking that was done by the camera software's computer programmers and software engineers. That leads to other questions: Who's cooking do you prefer? Canon? Nikon? Olympus?..............."


Wait, is this threat turning into a cooking thread? First Billnikon with his reference to "tripe" and now you are cooking digital pictures or having the camera do the cooking - what next? Fried Highlights?

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Oct 24, 2019 16:51:06   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I have no idea what "insipid minutia" means. And you forgot my hugging emoji; that makes all the difference.

ca·ma·ra·de·rie
/ˌkäməˈrädərē,ˌkaməˈrädərē/
noun
mutual trust and friendship among people who spend a lot of time together.


I think he meant minutiae - spell check must be broken . . .

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Oct 24, 2019 16:53:09   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
repleo wrote:
If I take a shot with my phone camera and process it on the phone with the Lightroom app, is it SOOC ? (Straight Out Of Camera). What if I use one of the Scene modes on my regular camera and the camera does the processing? My Sony has an app that allows me to set up three areas with different exposures and color temperatures in the same shot and blends them in-camera. Is that SOOC? Is it really any different to letting the camera process an Auto jpeg? What about in-camera lens correction or HDR?
Is letting some engineer in Japan determine how my image is supposed to look any more purist than me deciding how I want it to look?
If I take a shot with my phone camera and process ... (show quote)


SOOC can include ANYTHING the camera menu can do. It's just a usable JPEG file, straight out of the camera!

All those scene modes, art modes, picture styles, etc. are baked into a JPEG image in the camera. They only affect the preview image of a raw file. Raw data IS is unprocessed data... It has to be processed to be useful.

As good as automation is, often it takes testing, knowledge, understanding, trial and error, and skill to make files in the camera that satisfy. It's much easier to capture a raw file and tweak it in post-processing.

Any former slide/transparency photographer knows what I'm talking about! I used to carry an incident meter, color temperature meter, a big bag of filters, some reflectors, and a couple of speed lights for field work. I had filters for flash, bulbs to swap out with table lamps, diffusion sheets (Rosco Soft Frost), and other goodies to control contrast and color balance. I use a lot less of that now, including no filters other than a polarizer, a clear glass protector that I rarely need, and a couple of ND filters.

Slide film had very little latitude for acceptable results. So do JPEGs. Raw files are like undeveloped color negative film in most respects.

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Oct 24, 2019 17:00:56   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
l-fox wrote:
There is a tide in the affairs of men, Which taken at the flood, leads on to fortune. Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries. On such a full sea are we now afloat. And we must take the current when it serves, or lose our ventures.

Translated....Ya gotta do whatcha gotta do.


Polysyllabic phraseology: Big Words. I spent four years in academia learning it, and four years unlearning it so I could communicate with real people.

I think the Latin version of your first phrase is "Carpe Diem", which means "seize the day." Or as Traffic put it, "When you see a chance, take it." Or, as attributed to Yogi Berra, "When you see a fork in the road, take it." Then there was Robert Frost, who said something about taking the road less traveled by...

Ah, fuggeddaboudit.

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Oct 24, 2019 17:07:02   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
burkphoto wrote:
Polysyllabic phraseology: Big Words. I spent four years in academia learning it, and four years unlearning it so I could communicate with real people.

I think the Latin version of your first phrase is "Carpe Diem", which means "seize the day." Or as Traffic put it, "When you see a chance, take it." Or, as attributed to Yogi Berra, "When you see a fork in the road, take it." Then there was Robert Frost, who said something about taking the road less traveled by...

Ah, fuggeddaboudit.
Polysyllabic phraseology: Big Words. I spent four ... (show quote)


I've always wondered about "the road less traveled", by whom???

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Oct 24, 2019 17:07:37   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Wasn't there a story about the Donners who took the path less traveled?

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Oct 24, 2019 17:11:50   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Wasn't there a story about the Donners who took the path less traveled?

Yea, they did.
Problem was, they didn't take enough provisions.

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Oct 24, 2019 17:15:33   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Longshadow wrote:
Yea, they did.
Problem was, they didn't take enough provisions.


Actually, they didn't read the manual ... They ignored the best practices of when to travel, and then tried unproven short-cuts to try to catch up that only made matters worse.

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