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Oct 11, 2019 06:07:01   #
Rathyatra Loc: Southport, United Kingdom
 
Bazbo wrote:
Agree. Tools matter. A master craftsman with good tools will produce a better product than a master craftsman with inferior tools.

Of course, a master craftsman with inferior tools is still better than a novice with good tools.



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Oct 11, 2019 06:08:11   #
chippy65 Loc: Cambridge
 
MrBob wrote:
I think we can honestly say that a large majority of users on this forum, especially me, have never exhausted all the capabilities of any camera they have ever owned... The lust for new equipment comes from a denial of our own capabilities and the idea, conscious or unconscious, that the latest and greatest will improve our images. Go back and look at your favorite images; I would be willing to wager that the majority did not come from your newest purchases. Sometimes I think I have become more collector than photographer.
I think we can honestly say that a large majority ... (show quote)


Must admit that Mr Bob has hit the nail squarely on the head !

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Oct 11, 2019 06:11:26   #
joncogar Loc: WV
 
I believe its 80/20. 80 percent is the photographer and 20 percent the equipment. This photo was taken with a 150 dollar cell phone.


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Oct 11, 2019 06:27:57   #
Peterfiore Loc: Where DR goes south
 
Bazbo wrote:
Agree. Tools matter. A master craftsman with good tools will produce a better product than a master craftsman with inferior tools.

Of course, a master craftsman with inferior tools is still better than a novice with good tools.


And an Artist will find the way with a stick and mud...and stop you in your tracks.

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Oct 11, 2019 07:05:07   #
Stephan G
 
joer wrote:
Mostly what one hears from photographers, i.e., pro, enthusiast and neophytes, is that the equipment doesn't matter; its the photographer.

Then one has to ask, how many cameras, lenses, flashes, accessories, etc., do you have? Or what cameras or equipment do you lust after?

I think the evidence suggests that gear does matter, although it may not be most important. A skilled lumberjack with an axe will not compete with a man/woman who knows how to use a chain saw.


The skilled lumberjack knows where to hit with his axe to hew the tree. Someone who knows how to use a chain saw can actually get killed by not cutting properly. Just sayin'.

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Oct 11, 2019 07:05:37   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
joer wrote:
Mostly what one hears from photographers, i.e., pro, enthusiast and neophytes, is that the equipment doesn't matter; its the photographer.

Then one has to ask, how many cameras, lenses, flashes, accessories, etc., do you have? Or what cameras or equipment do you lust after?

I think the evidence suggests that gear does matter, although it may not be most important. A skilled lumberjack with an axe will not compete with a man/woman who knows how to use a chain saw.


Of course it matters. My cropper has a built-in flash because it has poor low-light capability while my full -framer has no flash because it's sensor is off the chart (almost) in that department and doesn't need any additional lighting to get the shot in available lighting conditions. No more lighting to set up deal with.

Anyone who has operated cameras for most of the past 5 decades knows that technology has really blossomed and that camera innovations have runaway with the spoon. I can't even imagine ever returning to some of the models of gear I once cherished & worshiped. I still shoot film in 3 of my old cameras only because I can and I have a local lab for processing the rolls of film but everything else is digital without question.

The dream that I once had where I envisioned a camera that could connect to a satellite and wirelessly broadcast live to the world from anywhere on the planet is now a reality and the quality of imaging has blown-away my wildest idea of where it could go. The amount of data storage in one's little memory card is beyond my imagination and I live in awe of it and can't wait to see where it will all end-up.

We are extremely blessed to have lived in a period of history where so many wonderful & useful inventions have come into view and literally changed the way we live.
Every day is a good day and another chance to learn something new and that's my mission and what drives me to keep moving and keep learning.
I live for this ! Ha Ha.

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Oct 11, 2019 07:27:47   #
Dannj
 
Bazbo wrote:
Agree. Tools matter. A master craftsman with good tools will produce a better product than a master craftsman with inferior tools.

Of course, a master craftsman with inferior tools is still better than a novice with good tools.


Good analogyđź‘Ť

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Oct 11, 2019 07:28:19   #
Nikon1201
 
I believe 100% photographer , unless your equipment is broken . An accomplished photog. With a Nikon D3100 could be better than one with a D850 . If you know your equipment and it is not broken your photos can be as good as the novice with the D850. Don’t blame the camera read the manual.

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Oct 11, 2019 07:29:53   #
morkie1891
 
The best equipment and processing technique will not make a poorly composed, dull subject an interesting image.

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Oct 11, 2019 07:32:09   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
joer wrote:
Mostly what one hears from photographers, i.e., pro, enthusiast and neophytes, is that the equipment doesn't matter; its the photographer...


You know, there is an easy way to answer this. Must be easy. I have done it. Let a skilled/skillful photographer take a photo with high-end gear and then again with "lesser" gear. "All things being equal", use same f/stop, shutter speed, ISO, etc, use tripod, cable or delayed shutter release --- eliminate as many variables as possible. Compare the results.
Determine what things about the images will differentiate "quality". (Sharpness, contrast, color fidelity, etc). I do tests like this for fun (how boring can one be?) [https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-499318-1.html] [https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-501318-1.html].

e.g. Last week I tested my AF Nikkor 35-105mm D (a well respected lens) vs a AF Nikkor 28-100mm G (a lens often reviled on the net). Images from the former were "somewhat" sharper and had much better contrast and MUCH more faithful color. Same subjects, tripod mounted, focus confirmation, etc, etc.

Go figure!

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Oct 11, 2019 07:41:41   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
It is a combination of both!

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Oct 11, 2019 07:41:49   #
rond-photography Loc: Connecticut
 
joer wrote:
Mostly what one hears from photographers, i.e., pro, enthusiast and neophytes, is that the equipment doesn't matter; its the photographer.

Then one has to ask, how many cameras, lenses, flashes, accessories, etc., do you have? Or what cameras or equipment do you lust after?

I think the evidence suggests that gear does matter, although it may not be most important. A skilled lumberjack with an axe will not compete with a man/woman who knows how to use a chain saw.


Think of it this way. If you have a skilled carpenter using tools they bought at Harbor Freight (their cheapest ones) and a newbie with the very best of [your favorite brand here] tools, and they both proceeded to build a small house, you would probably be amazed at what the carpenter accomplished with such low priced tools. You might be pleased with the newbie's work, but then again, unless newbie knew how to measure, square, plumb, and assemble, you might wonder if they were the ones with the inferior tools.

I agree that the tools make a difference, but only in the hands of someone who knows how to use them.

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Oct 11, 2019 07:52:46   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
joer wrote:
Mostly what one hears from photographers, i.e., pro, enthusiast and neophytes, is that the equipment doesn't matter; its the photographer.

Then one has to ask, how many cameras, lenses, flashes, accessories, etc., do you have? Or what cameras or equipment do you lust after?

I think the evidence suggests that gear does matter, although it may not be most important. A skilled lumberjack with an axe will not compete with a man/woman who knows how to use a chain saw.


A first-rate, experienced photographer with basic equipment will out-shoot some one new at it who has a gazillion dollars’ worth of equipment.

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Oct 11, 2019 07:53:38   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Is there nothing new under the sun?

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Oct 11, 2019 08:09:17   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Half & half. You're not going to see a professional photographer at the Olympics or a wedding using an old cell phone. A better camera takes better pictures, regardless of skill level. Why do we see questions here about fps, low light capability, and resolution?

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