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Oct 4, 2019 12:51:49   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
It's not whether you get knocked down in life, it's whether you can afford to repair your broken lens.

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Oct 4, 2019 13:19:10   #
ecurb1105
 
quixdraw wrote:
Living entails risk if you care to have a full and interesting life. Bringing a camera is the least of it!


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Oct 4, 2019 13:25:49   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
halraiser wrote:
I'm a member of as search and rescue team. Yesterday we were searching for a lost couple in some relatively nasty terrain. Thankfully we were successful and rescued our subjects. Anyway, one of the members of my team (a professional photographer) was carrying a DSLR with a fairly large zoom lens. As we ate lunch I made the comment that it was brave to carry such a thing there.

His response: No, it isn't brave, it's stupid.

I do not expect to see him carrying that camera on a mission again.
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Large Zoom Lens on a Search & Rescue operation, you're kidding right. There is such a volunteer team near where I used to live, the fairly famous Sierra Madre Search & Rescue Team of Sierra-Madre, California, https://www.smsr.org/. They are even called to other areas. If you have ever been in or hiked the San Gabriel Mountains you would know why a rescue team is needed! I would expect any rescue or emergency first-responders who are actually going to do any rescuing would limit themselves to a packet-able small camera and lens. Military photographers and correspondents, and Police CSIs are a bit different, documenting is their job.

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Oct 4, 2019 13:36:10   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
halraiser wrote:
True, but

a. On such missions we are already typically loaded to the gills with gear we need to function in that kind of terrain and to treat the injured if necessary. Every extra pound adds difficulty.

b. That kind of terrain provides the risk of falls and other accidents that could damage both man and camera.


Here is a good time when the camera on a cell phone is most useful. You can get a good quality photograph in lieu of damaging your $4500 rig. I think I would cry if that happened.

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Oct 4, 2019 14:39:01   #
Bill P
 
The nomenclature of cameras has reached a foolish dead end. We are getting weird alphanumeric designations that show we are in need of more letters and numbers from which to choose. Why Canon and Panasonic dont' get together and straighten things out I don't know.

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Oct 4, 2019 15:07:45   #
Collhar Loc: New York City.
 
LFingar wrote:
Could have been worse. He could have been an artist who makes his living doing large, scenic, oil paintings!
Glad your mission was a success!


An artist??? I thought he had a camera.

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Oct 4, 2019 15:12:13   #
Collhar Loc: New York City.
 
Dannj wrote:
As I said “maybe we don’t have all the details” so all we can do is speculate. As for anyone being put in jeopardy, you’re right, we don’t know that either. But the primary focus (npi) of a rescue mission is finding and helping the subjects. It’s not a photo shoot.


Whenever I see/hear; maybe, could be, might have, there is a possibility of, perhaps it happened there is speculation.
I know its to be taken with a grain of salt. You attach too much to a camera. You are dwelling on a so what.

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Oct 4, 2019 15:44:03   #
halraiser
 
Yes, Sierra Madre is a good SAR team, but it is really common for any decent SAR team to get called to other areas on occasion. When someone needs rescue, authorities tend to call the closest appropriate team first, then if they need more resources they call teams from farther and farther away, sometimes even from other states. I've been on SAR missions in two states and on missions closer to home where teams from other states joined in.

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Oct 4, 2019 17:25:05   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
halraiser wrote:
Yes, Sierra Madre is a good SAR team, but it is really common for any decent SAR team to get called to other areas on occasion. When someone needs rescue, authorities tend to call the closest appropriate team first, then if they need more resources they call teams from farther and farther away, sometimes even from other states. I've been on SAR missions in two states and on missions closer to home where teams from other states joined in.


One of the bravest guys I know was an instructor with NYS SAR in the Adirondack Mtns. On a 1000' sheer face he would rappel down about 200' or so to a ledge to be the 'victim'. The trainees would rappel down to rescue him, strapping him into a litter. With him totally unable to move or free himself, not that it would do much good, he would then be lowered over the edge for the 800' descent to the ground! I would, and have, jumped out of planes all day long, but, to be strapped in, totally dependent on someone else, that just sends a chill down my spine. SAR is not for the faint hearted!
BTW, his 'real job' was as a professional photographer! Had a studio in this area for quite some time, until his divorce anyway.

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Oct 4, 2019 18:07:38   #
Murray Loc: New Westminster
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If this is an invite for a discussion of what would be an better idea, I prefer a pocket sized Canon Powershot or similar. I have a GX9 II that is the size of a deck of cards that fits in my pants / shorts front pocket. The camera captures in 20MP RAW, fully editable as any DSLR. The lens isn't the premier lenses of a DSLR, but otherwise the results are excellent and certainly on par with the kit lenses of a DSLR package. I'd rather have the smaller Powershot and the RAW files than my personal cell phone in a risky situation.
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Me too.

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Oct 4, 2019 20:17:52   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
"If this is an invite for a discussion of what would be an better idea..." it might be an Olympus TG-5 (or newer TG-6). My wife gave me one because she thought I fussed and worried over my "good" cameras. It's pretty hard to fuss over a TG-5. It does shoot RAW and files are editable.

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Oct 4, 2019 21:42:54   #
ELNikkor
 
I can see how a drone might come in handy when searching for lost people or animals.

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Oct 4, 2019 22:18:49   #
Cheapshot Loc: California.
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
Item 1. The guy with the DSLR was a member of the SAR team and hopefully smart enough to realize the magnitude of his mistake and I don't mean risk to his equipment.
Item 2. On a SAR mission the first concern is always the safety of the team. Always! What was the team leader thinking to even let this guy go?
Item 3. As we know who shoot expensive DSLRs and lenses, we will automatically sacrifice our bodies to save our equipment, and suddenly the emergency has additional victim(s).
Item 4. If photo documentation is needed, this is the type of situation where a cell camera is the perfect solution.
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Absolutely correct!

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Oct 4, 2019 23:55:17   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Wow 4 pages of replies! I guess we are into the random walk part now?

I was going to bring my camera to work to shoot some pics with my Nikkor 14-24mm I thought the venue would be great for some creative work with the wide lens and a little distortion. Then I found out that there was a test on-going, and "that customer" might not appreciate pictures being taken. To put it politely. Never mind a ginormous lens. So I left the camera at home. Cell phone cam stayed in my pocket.

Sadly, but it is reality, there are times it is best not to take pics.

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Oct 5, 2019 05:13:33   #
11bravo
 
bsprague wrote:
"If this is an invite for a discussion of what would be an better idea..." it might be an Olympus TG-5 (or newer TG-6). My wife gave me one because she thought I fussed and worried over my "good" cameras. It's pretty hard to fuss over a TG-5. It does shoot RAW and files are editable.
Agreed, the Olympus TG cameras are perfect for this, says the owner of a TG-4.

It's a search and rescue TEAM, and any careless act of one effects the many. Humping an extra load makes you more tired, and tiredness causes mistakes; it slows you down; and can be distracting. Just seems selfish to me.

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