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Sep 20, 2019 13:01:06   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
"f/8 and be there" assumes you couldn't afford better equipment.

"f/8 and be there" is attributed to 'Weegee Fellig', a street shooter in the age of manual focus cameras who would use f/8 because of the depth of field it provided. He could set shutter speed based on current conditions and focus at an intermediate distance, and as long as the lighting didn't change too much he could snap off a quick shot without having to stop and fumble with settings.

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Sep 20, 2019 15:40:46   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Just my opinion, but for portraits and landscapes you can't beat the Pentax 645Z MF 51MP digital. I recently purchased one used on ebay with the auto focus 55mm f2.8 for a little over $3K. I then purchased 3 manual Pentax 645 lenses for $500 total, the 35mm, the 120mm macro and the 200mm. The Pentax has very good focus peaking for manual focus. For $8 I also purchased a wireless remote control. As a bonus for me, the Pentax 645Z is the only digital MF that shoots HD video. Also purchased a heavy duty tripod as it's a hevay rig, probably about 4lbs. for the camera and lens. I'm not sure how it will do for sports, but with usable iso up to 3200 and 51 MP, there's lots of room for cropping.

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Sep 21, 2019 05:24:15   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Pistnbroke wrote:
Keep away from Canon. Although they have a bigger market share they don't have access to sony sensors and the quality is not quite there ...From what you say stick to FX I have both the D850 and D7200 ..Stick with the D850....( I have recently owned D800/D810/D850 D7100/D7200 so I got a rough idea) I would not call a D7200 a high MP camera


Let us see.
Sony lacks the DPAF in their sensors. This makes their video jumpy in AF compared to the far superior Canon sensor. IF DR is an issue then after ISO 200 there is no difference in DR and for sports you are frequently much higher than that. Below ISO 200 it might be a stop at most if that. We know DXO is not that accurate in their subjective measurements.
Additionally for action the Nikon and Canon both have lower MP counts in their pro cameras yet no one has ever complained about the detail available. Look at published photos from pro sports events, you see the beads of sweat in detail.
Finally the Canon colors are the highest rated you can get as far a quality. Again Sony sensors fall way behind with more cartoon like colors.
But all cameras do well today so get what you like and I do not care as it is not being acquired for me.

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Sep 21, 2019 06:03:25   #
Wilhan
 
I find that my D850 is excellent for action shots and find that the tracking and focus never lets me down. I recently went to the Oulton Park circuit for a superbikes event and the D850 set to Group Focus, together with the 300mm f4 PF lens made an ideal combination for handheld shots.



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Sep 21, 2019 06:30:07   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Deb P wrote:
I have been searching for months for a high megapixel camera. I mainly shoot portraits and landscapes but with my 6 grandchildren growing older and into sports there may be some action photos once they stop picking the dandelion’s in right field.
I have looked at the Nikon D850 which states it is not good for action shots. I have also looked at the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II which had the option of relatively 50mp.
I was brought up living in the Finger Lakes region of NYS, specifically on Keuka Lake. I’m dying to get some great seasonal photos which I want to blow up onto canvas, basically around poster size and I don’t want to loose any resolution.
I would appreciate any recommendations. I’m so sick of reading camera reviews, I need some good solid advice from people who know what they are talking about and have used these models. Once again, an all around camera with a good assortment of lenses for what I want to use it for. Thank you all so much. PS. Would like to keep the price of the body only around $ 3,500. Willing to go higher if I must.
I have been searching for months for a high megapi... (show quote)


The D850 is the best all-around camera. Others are pretty good or nearly as good, but outside of Canon, which offers a bit more of a "system" than Nikon, none of the other contenders really come close. Sony is nice, and they have the best and fastest auto focus system on the planet and great video capabilities, but their firmware (camera menus) is a pain to use, and they do not have the repair network that either Canon or Nikon have. I tend to like larger format sensors, though I have taken great images with a 1" sensor Sony RX10M4.

Anyone who claims that a D850 is not for action shooting is clearly a Keyboard Kommando and just making claims like this with no practical experience, or simply regurgitating nonsense that some sensationalist has written with the sole purpose of making money by driving clicks to his/her website and also may not have any practical experience. It's easy to write an opinion. It's much harder to support an opinion with images.

The other thing people tend to dismiss is the value of high mp count - truth is, if you are not printing your work, you may not need a high mp camera. Screens are just coming around to 4K, which is only 8.8 mp. But when you print your work, it helps to have more mp, especially if you do some cropping. Wildlife shooters do crop.

A Canon 5D Mk III has just 22 mp, but here you can see its capabilities in a wide variety of settings. Nearly all of the images in her galleries have been taken with that camera.

https://untamednewyork.smugmug.com/

I took thes images with a "much" slower camera that is not supposed to be used for this sort of photography (either a D800 or a D810).

_DSC4690-NIKON D810-3007990-(26-01-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC7924 by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC7911-Edit by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC3783 by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

Oh, and these cameras do a pretty decent job at landscapes as well:

_DSC6134-HDR-Pano-Edit by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC6203-HDR-Pano-Edit-Edit by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC1933-NIKON D800-3064517-(25-10-17)-Pano by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2139-NIKON D800-3064517-(01-11-17)-Pano-Edit by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

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Sep 21, 2019 06:32:47   #
Jeffcs Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
 
It’s a real shame most out there will always tell perspective camera brand purchasers to stay away from Olympus it can’t perform as well as Canikon that’s just rubbish the OMDem1mk2 is awesome in every way with a lens set out performing most of the big two lenses! Read and research what you will do go to a good camera store good luck
Oh yea there isn’t a BEST camera out there

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Sep 21, 2019 06:50:01   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Deb P wrote:
I have been searching for months for a high megapixel camera. I mainly shoot portraits and landscapes but with my 6 grandchildren growing older and into sports there may be some action photos once they stop picking the dandelion’s in right field.
I have looked at the Nikon D850 which states it is not good for action shots. I have also looked at the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II which had the option of relatively 50mp.
I was brought up living in the Finger Lakes region of NYS, specifically on Keuka Lake. I’m dying to get some great seasonal photos which I want to blow up onto canvas, basically around poster size and I don’t want to loose any resolution.
I would appreciate any recommendations. I’m so sick of reading camera reviews, I need some good solid advice from people who know what they are talking about and have used these models. Once again, an all around camera with a good assortment of lenses for what I want to use it for. Thank you all so much. PS. Would like to keep the price of the body only around $ 3,500. Willing to go higher if I must.
I have been searching for months for a high megapi... (show quote)


Who says the D850 is not good for sports. I shoot birds in flight in Florida all the time with my D850 and my Nikon 500mm f5.6 lens and I get outstanding results.
I also own the D500 and IMHO it does not outshine my D850 for action shots.
I do have the D5 battery in the D850 to get 9 fps. instead of 7, but even at 7 fps it is great.
I use GROUP AUTO FOCUS on both and get outstanding shots from both.
Don't let others sway your opinion. The D850 can shoot sports just fine. No problems here.

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Sep 21, 2019 07:49:05   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I think "not good for" means there is a camera that does that one specific thing better. If you specialize in just one type of photography, you would look for a camera that excels in that area, regardless how it does with other subjects. I just want a good all-around camera - my D750.

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Sep 21, 2019 07:58:02   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"Don't even think about M4/3 been there done that not at all happy with the picture quality"

I do not believe there will be many photographers these days, especially professional photographers that will agree with you. I am not a professional and I do not agree with you either.
I do not shoot with an Olympus OM-1 Mk II which is a very good professional camera, I use the Olympus Pen EP-5 and the OM-10 Mk II with mostly amateur lenses and I see nothing but lots of quality in my files and prints. Olympus colors have to be among the best I have seen and the little cameras are packed with technologies not available in dSLR cameras. I do not believe the Nikon D850, an excellent tool, can shoot 60 FPS. Try the OM-1 Mk II if you are in need of such a high sequential shooting and then come back to me.

Since you are not happy with the picture quality of mirrorless cameras I want to tell you that according to my own experience Olympus Zuiko lenses are among the BEST optics I have ever used in my more than 50 years photographing. They have a great selection of interchangeable lenses for their cameras and those lenses are superb in quality more so if you shoot with their professional optics. I can say the same of Panasonic, Sony, Canon, Nikon and Fuji. Sony uses many Zeiss lenses and I wonder if you ever shot with Zeiss lenses. If you are limited by the optical quality of these brands my friend you have a serious problem.

It is AF the only area where I would go for a dSLR instead of a mirrorless any day. The OM-1 Mk II is pretty good but not better in that respect than a dSLR.
Give another thought to mirrorless cameras if quality of images is your main concern.

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Sep 21, 2019 08:06:29   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Improvement begins with I, not $.

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Sep 21, 2019 08:06:56   #
Reddog Loc: Southern Calif
 
Haydon wrote:
Although on a SPEC sheet, it may not appear that Canon has the same latitude of DR, much of the imaging comes as a result of the photographer. Most of these images were made from a 8 year old Canon 5D3 body.

https://500px.com/elenashumilova

Please show me examples of your own work that exceed these images.

I'll be the first to admit in post you may have a more latitude with the shadows with Sony sensors and Canon doesn't have a match for the D850 but I'm not so sure I want to work in post with very large files with frequency separation, and other facial retouching. That's a lot of work. I also suspect a good deal of work will be tripod bound. I have a fellow shooter using a D850 and he almost exclusively uses a tripod to ensure tack sharp images. He doesn't have the same hit rate handheld. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm going by another another photographer who maybe less competent than yourself.

Although I own all Canon, I'm not a fanboy. I do recognize their shortcomings and strengths. Canon's coming out with outstanding MILC glass unmatched at present. There bodies aren't their strengths.

I honestly don't feel you could buy a bad camera nowadays. Your limiting factor is mostly your own abilities. That's certainly my case. I'm not trying to argue or debate. I just feel it's best to keep an open mind and decide what is best for the application of your own work.
Although on a SPEC sheet, it may not appear that C... (show quote)


Your photos are amazing and way out of my league!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

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Sep 21, 2019 08:31:57   #
Bison Bud
 
The best "All Around Camera" is the one you have with you.

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Sep 21, 2019 08:36:42   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Bison Bud wrote:
The best "All Around Camera" is the one you have with you.

Not "all round". On several occasions, the only camera I had with me could provide only inadequate rendition of what I was seeing, and in my mind's eye I could see a much more appropriate camera sitting on my dresser, in my closet, .... anywhere except where I was at the moment.

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Sep 21, 2019 08:52:31   #
woodworkerman Loc: PA to FL
 
Haydon wrote:
Although on a SPEC sheet, it may not appear that Canon has the same latitude of DR, much of the imaging comes as a result of the photographer. Most of these images were made from a 8 year old Canon 5D3 body.

https://500px.com/elenashumilova

Please show me examples of your own work that exceed these images.


WOW ! I went to the link you provided to look at the pictures by Elena. They are AMAZING!

To the topic, digitally, I have used both Nikon and Canon and finally settled on Canon. I have 3 bodies and 7 lenses and am totally satisfied with the image results. Once you invest and continually use one brand, you work around any limitations you sense and can produce as high a quality image as any other brand.

When I see full-time Pro's in the field, I always try to see what brand they are using. You might consider taking some time and going to a variety of public events and seeing what is being used by the seasoned Pro's. Maybe even talk to them and get their opinions of why they use a particular brand. Don't be in too much of a rush and you will be happier when you do make a choice.

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Sep 21, 2019 08:58:52   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
A10 wrote:
Here goes for my 2 cents. Pentax K-1 has been rated a great camera for landscapes because of 36mp and several other features such as weather proofing. Great for portraits too unless thay are moving too fast. Cost is very reasonable for new and used, with "glass" available from Pentax and 3rd parties. I use new lenses but with my portraits I sometimes use 40-50 year old Pentax lenses that fit and work on Manual. I can provide portraits or you can go to ostranderphoto.com


I’m a Pentax photographer, have been since 1968, got a spotmatic while serving In Vietnam..I have had many since then . Have recently parred-down to just two bodies. The K-1 and the K-S2, but I have a substantial array of lenses that work wonderfully. Another BRAND I like and have is FUJI. Fuji seems damned good, almost as great as pentax. As someone said earlier, cameras are nearly all good, it’s the glass that matters most. IMHO. . RJM

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