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Sep 17, 2019 12:01:14   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
travelwp wrote:
Wow, a gun guy on the way to a shooting range, who gets into a traffic fender bender, can be sent to jail !


Yeh, in your muddled up world but not in a logical world.

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Sep 17, 2019 12:12:41   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
letmedance wrote:
What he is saying is laws do not stop determined criminals, or social misfits from committing crimes, laws only make it possible to punish the guilty in a legal way. If we should ban all firearms then the law would be a boon to the criminal enterprise.


Because all these fools who say “I will never give up my guns” will be criminals. Put them in jail, if they raise a gun in defiance, treat them like you do armed black kids, shoot them dead.

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Sep 17, 2019 12:13:40   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
pendennis wrote:
Did I state, or even imply, that murder should be legalized? It's never been legal to commit murder, and you're a fool when you imply that anyone espouses that idea.

As with all Liberal/Progressive/Fascist/Socialist non-thinkers, you attempt to parse your way to legitimacy in your argument, when all you're doing is showing the circularity of your arguments.

My argument is that when you attempt to squeeze legitimate rights from law-abiding citizens, they will always find a way to maintain and protect those rights.
Did I state, or even imply, that murder should be ... (show quote)


And if they break the law, jail them, there are criminals.

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Sep 17, 2019 12:22:47   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So with your logic, we should not outlaw
Murder because there will always be someone who figures out how to do it anyway.


How big of a leap did you have to make to come up with something that crazy little guy?

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Sep 17, 2019 12:24:21   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Kraken wrote:
Yeh, in your muddled up world but not in a logical world.


You are right, taking away guns in the US logical world will NEVER happen.

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Sep 17, 2019 12:26:36   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Because all these fools who say “I will never give up my guns” will be criminals. Put them in jail, if they raise a gun in defiance, treat them like you do armed black kids, shoot them dead.


Tell us ALL HOW YOU DETERMINE THAT SOMEONE WHO SAYS THEY WILL NOT GIVE UP HAS AUTOMATICALLY BECOME A CRIMINAL IN THE DEMOCRATS MIND. There is no law to give up your guns, dems want one, but it will NEVER happen.

Your racism is running out of control again.

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Sep 17, 2019 12:31:02   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Because all these fools who say “I will never give up my guns” will be criminals. Put them in jail, if they raise a gun in defiance, treat them like you do armed black kids, shoot them dead.


The police shoot people of all colors almost every day, they shoot black, brown, yellow, white and any other color. Why is it that it is only Black Kids make National News.

Your reply by the way shows your misunderstanding what I posted.
Simply put, if I the average law abiding citizen a give up my gun (actually I do not own a Gun) then then i become the mark of every criminal that has one.

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Sep 17, 2019 12:31:34   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
You are right, taking away guns in the US logical world will NEVER happen.


They don't want to take away all your guns just the ones that are stupidly insane to go hunting with.

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Sep 17, 2019 12:46:18   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Every criminal citizen started out as a law-abiding citizen.

So what you must do is view every law-abiding citizen as a "pre-criminal citizen".


There is one small document in the United States of America called the Constitution. It says we are “innocent until proven guilty.” It does not say every law abiding citizen is a “ pre-criminal.”

That same Constitution says we can not make expost facto laws.

If I have to sell my guns back to the government, where will the government get the money to buy said guns? I am taking a wild guess that it will come from taxes. In other words, we will give the government money to give us to buy our guns.

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Sep 17, 2019 12:46:30   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Kraken wrote:
They don't want to take away all your guns just the ones that are stupidly insane to go hunting with.


The problem is that we do not know who the Insane are, and could step on the Constitution trying to find out.

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Sep 17, 2019 13:00:50   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
letmedance wrote:
The problem is that we do not know who the Insane are, and could step on the Constitution trying to find out.


Canadians do not understand the Constitution, Bill of Rights or our other documents that we live by. THEIR government tells them what to do and they must do it. It's that simple.

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Sep 17, 2019 13:10:56   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Canadians do not understand the Constitution, Bill of Rights or our other documents that we live by. THEIR government tells them what to do and they must do it. It's that simple.


The difference here in Canada is that when some politician from the 17th century creates a law that works very well in the 17th. century but is just plain stupid today is easily changed without everyone having a bird.

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Sep 17, 2019 13:12:42   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
Kraken wrote:
They don't want to take away all your guns just the ones that are stupidly insane to go hunting with.


Would you please tell me why an AR15 is “stupidly insane to go hunting with”.

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Sep 17, 2019 13:15:41   #
cwp3420
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So with your logic, we should not outlaw
Murder because there will always be someone who figures out how to do it anyway.


Murder is already outlawed. You sound more ignorant with every post you write.

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Sep 17, 2019 13:17:36   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Wrangler wrote:
Would you please tell me why an AR15 is “stupidly insane to go hunting with”.


Your forefathers went hunting with single shot rifles and always got what they went after, so what happened to the mighty hunter of today?

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