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Sep 16, 2019 11:20:10   #
Compassionate nurse
 
gessman wrote:
That's a really nice compliment and I'd suspect it's intended for Linda of Washin... er, uh, Maine, and deservedly so but all doubt of your intended recipient would be removed if you would click on the "Quote Reply" button so part of her post is included to identify to whom you are replying. People who are humble will rarely ask about a compliment even if all is evident, "are you talking about me," while people with almost no humility, and all that goes along with that, will invariably assume you are talking about them when nothing could be farther from the truth. "Aim." Use "Quote Reply." And thanks for speaking out and giving credit where credit is due.
That's a really nice compliment and I'd suspect it... (show quote)


Thanks for helping me do this properly. Yes, I want the correct Linda to feel my appreciation... and your generosity will permit this. Gracias!

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Sep 16, 2019 11:22:35   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
catchlight.. wrote:
...As you say, it is expected to endlessly pat each other on the back.
You have an interesting way of interpreting others' comments I'm beginning to sense that you are holding onto some bitterness that many of your own Gallery postings received little attention.

Folks new to UHH will discover that if a topic doesn't make it into the emailed daily digest, it will likely be unseen - regardless of quality or content. Gallery receives 45 to 100 new topics every day, but the digest contains only 30. The ones that make it in are partly those that had a lot of activity the day posted, and partly random. Also, there is more than one "issue" of a digest due to the worldwide membership and posting times.

To receive a lot of comments on the day posted, you need a little luck and a lot of buddies. The Buddy List is not just to "like mine, and I'll like yours." It is one way for folks to follow specific talent, styles or subjects of personal interest - a way to narrow down the 100 to a more manageable number

Looking forward to seeing your tutorials!

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Sep 16, 2019 11:24:22   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Compassionate nurse wrote:
Thanks for helping me do this properly. Yes, I want the correct Linda to feel my appreciation... and your generosity will permit this. Gracias!
Thank you kindly - and to Gessman too

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Sep 16, 2019 11:24:40   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
While I agree that useful criticism is helpful and you do not generally get that from your friends I don't know if you will get that here on the UHH either. I think all of us can agree that sometimes people submit photographs that are not in focus, poor composition, motion blur, too dark/too light and so on. Yet the viewers to a fault say things like, Great capture Fred, wonderful composition Helen, that's a wall hanger for sure. We have people who submit the very same photos day after day with no change, just the very same pictures. Only the birds, squirrels or flowers have been changed to protect the innocent as Joe Friday might have said years ago.

I am not putting down the people who submit their photos at all. We all see our photos differently. Some people take moon shots and they come out as exquisite examples of exposure and sharp focus. Others submit photos of the same moon that are too bright, too light, no focus and so on. Those people like their photograph and some are even surprised that they can take a photo of something that far away.

My main point is that UHH members are generally not in the habit of giving painstakingly accurate appraisals of photos submitted.

Dennis

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Sep 16, 2019 11:30:43   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
OK, what is a great photo? A perfect shot of something I don't like? A good picture of a great subject, I love.
We are getting into a spot that could go on for ever.
Do people like MY work? That in my mind is the subject likable and is the picture quality good including cropped, exposed properly etc.

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Sep 16, 2019 11:37:22   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
It would seem some are already ready to shoot the messenger (critiques yet to be rendered on images yet to be posted). Rather than the excitable senior reaction syndrome, why don't we just let the OP create a post in the proper feedback section, being sure to store the attachment, and let's see if they can get something more effective than a FB like from their family members.

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Sep 16, 2019 11:40:17   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
You have an interesting way of interpreting others' comments I'm beginning to sense that you are holding onto some bitterness that many of your own Gallery postings received little attention.

Folks new to UHH will discover that if your topic doesn't make it into the emailed daily digest, it will likely be unseen. Gallery receives 30 to 100 new topics every day, but the digest contains only 30. The ones that make it in are partly those that had a lot of activity the day posted, and partly random. Also, there is more than one "issue" of a digest due to the worldwide membership and posting times.

To receive a lot of comments on the day posted, you need a little luck and a lot of buddies. The Buddy List is not just to "like mine, and I'll like yours." It is one way for folks to follow specific talent, styles or subjects of personal interest - a way to narrow down the 100 to a more manageable number
You have an interesting way of interpreting others... (show quote)


Bitterness??? where the hell did that come from? LOL. It is definately time to say good by to the HOG.

Very very very amazing comeback...

I work for 70 publications, am an Editor, Journalist and accomplished photographer. This month I had a major cover photo, wrote three large articles and had 200 published images included... and I would worry if I were popular enough to be in your daily digest or be on some buddy list?

Laughable

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Sep 16, 2019 11:41:40   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Picture Taker wrote:
OK, what is a great photo? A perfect shot of something I don't like? A good picture of a great subject, I love. We are getting into a spot that could go on for ever. Do people like MY work? That in my mind is the subject likable and is the picture quality good including cropped, exposed properly etc.
Since there is often disagreement among judges and critics about "great," think more specifically to individual learning/teaching opportunities. A couple of examples from UHH discussions:

1. Which one of these do you like, and WHY? (could be different perspectives, compositions, crops or b&w vs. color)

2. I tried to show the scale of this mountain. Did I succeed? What could I have done differently?

3. Is the sun flare distracting or does it add to the overall mood? Please explain your opinion.

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Sep 16, 2019 11:46:22   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
catchlight.. wrote:
...Laughable
Gotcha 😇

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Sep 16, 2019 11:48:29   #
Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
You have an interesting way of interpreting others' comments I'm beginning to sense that you are holding onto some bitterness that many of your own Gallery postings received little attention.

Folks new to UHH will discover that if a topic doesn't make it into the emailed daily digest, it will likely be unseen - regardless of quality or content. Gallery receives 45 to 100 new topics every day, but the digest contains only 30. The ones that make it in are partly those that had a lot of activity the day posted, and partly random. Also, there is more than one "issue" of a digest due to the worldwide membership and posting times.

To receive a lot of comments on the day posted, you need a little luck and a lot of buddies. The Buddy List is not just to "like mine, and I'll like yours." It is one way for folks to follow specific talent, styles or subjects of personal interest - a way to narrow down the 100 to a more manageable number

Looking forward to seeing your tutorials!
You have an interesting way of interpreting others... (show quote)


I'm sorry....being a 'neutral' visitor (I haven't posted any images yet) I think Catchlight is right. I noticed the same behaviour. It's good to be positive but it's better to be honest.

Please bear in mind I'm dutch. Dutch people are known to be a bit too 'direct'... ;)

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Sep 16, 2019 11:54:56   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Haenzel wrote:
I'm sorry....being a 'neutral' visitor (I haven't posted any images yet) I think Catchlight is right. I noticed the same behaviour. It's good to be positive but it's better to be honest.

Please bear in mind I'm dutch. Dutch people are known to be a bit too 'direct'... ;)
No worries! My primary point is that Photo Gallery is a social sharing site and unsolicited critique may not be welcomed. A lot of people (most on UHH are over 70!) enjoy their photography just the way it is.

Why concern yourself with the lack of honesty (as you see it) in that section when there are other sections of UHH in which feedback is encouraged and desired.

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Sep 16, 2019 12:17:32   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Bill_de wrote:
But what if you are the greatest person to hit a shutter button?

If you want critiques there are various sections here that can be useful. If you post in the Photo Gallery you should specifically ask for a critique.

Once posted let the image stand on its own. It's up to you to decide what information is helpful to you. If someone says something negative that you disagree with, just say thank you. If somebody points out a flaw, just say thank you. If some says, I love it, just say thank you.

You want to keep things focused on the image, not the conditions, the equipment, or the fact that you have a cold. If you just want a discussion about your photo, that's what you should ask for.

IMHO

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But what if you are the greatest person to hit a s... (show quote)



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Sep 16, 2019 12:25:56   #
KTJohnson Loc: Northern Michigan
 
My advice to the OP is to post a photo (in the Gallery or elsewhere) and if advice or critique is wanted, ask for it.

I have to agree that most photos posted in the Gallery get universal approval if someone comments at all. I post a photo there almost daily, and I appreciate the comments. However, I also realize some of those comments come from regulars who say nice things to almost everyone.

I rarely critique or offer advice to any photo posted in the Gallery unless it is asked for. But, occasionally I have offered my advice because I couldn't stand all the great comments about a bad, out-of-focus, poorly-lit, ill-composed picture. But that is rare. I guess it all depends on what kind of day I am having and the mood I'm in. Usually I just move on to the next thing.

What I really appreciate is someone pointing out something in a photo I posted, that I may have overlooked that could stand improvement.

I hope "Catchlight" doesn't leave the Hog. He is truly a very talented photographer, that I follow. I enjoy anything he posts from or about Norway along with his great shots of cars.

A lot can be learned from this site besides just enjoying the photography. Most of us just need to learn when to let things go, instead of commenting on them.

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Sep 16, 2019 12:52:54   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Compassionate nurse wrote:
Thanks for helping me do this properly. Yes, I want the correct Linda to feel my appreciation... and your generosity will permit this. Gracias!


Si!

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Sep 16, 2019 12:57:27   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
qasas3251 wrote:
I'm like most of you folks when it comes to my photos. When I ask for an honest critique from my friends and family, they make me feel like I'm the greatest person to hit the shutter release. I'm looking for genuine constructive comments. I want to keep on proving in my hobby.

Thanks!
Stephen

Great inquiry! I would encourage you to explore OTHER sections of UHH in addition to the Gallery, which, if you read the guidance for it, is mainly for photo sharing. There are some excellent images among those shared, but sharing is most of what happens there. And it moves so quickly that what you post today may have utterly vanished down the board by tonight, reducing your chances of useful feedback even further.

I got most of my photographic training right here on UHH - in sections like Critique, For Your Consideration, Post Processing and more. Those smaller and more targeted sections are more conducive to the kinds of in-depth conversations that help us grow, help us solve problems, and let us know what actually works or doesn't work in this mix of art and craft that is photography. I learned most by asking specific questions, taking every comment in stride and considering it (whether I ultimately agreed with it or not), and also by critiquing the images of others with careful attention, honesty and respect.

Though I still have much to learn, the feedback I've got on UHH and another forum has helped move me from novice to reaching my goals of being published, winning competitions, receiving an endowment and having gallery exhibits. There is a lot of talent here, and you can find all the support you need to grow, but you do have to be purposeful in seeking it out.

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