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Sep 13, 2019 09:31:35   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
splatbass wrote:
I booked a flight to Las Vegas from Honolulu for a two week RV trip. I am taking a two cameras, and three or four lenses. It didn't say anything when I booked the flight, but the itinerary they sent (United) says no carry on bags probably due to a small plane from SFO to LAS. So I'm not sure what to do now. Cancel and pay the cancellation fee? Gate check backpack in carry on suitcase? Check a pelican case and risk theft? None of these options are ideal. It is a once in a lifetime kind of trip, with stops at national parks, etc., including the elk rut at Rocky Mountain NP, so it is essential I take my gear (photography is one of the prime reasons for the trip). I can take a personal item (I have a messenger bag that holds a camera and two small lenses), but the telephotos needed for wildlife won't fit.

Any advice?
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Show up with a camera bag on your shoulder. If they give you flack when boarding, say "Electronic equipment with batteries and I can get it under my seat." They will let you on.

Oh. And did you get you National Park Pass? The annual pass is $80 (free for active military and dependents) and covers your family for entrance and amenity fees for the year.

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Sep 13, 2019 09:41:40   #
ClinchfieldPaul Loc: Salisbury NC
 
spraguead wrote:
United's lowest fares are limited to "no carry on". Usually you can pay a fee to add the carry on, or you can pay a fee for luggage (having equipment in a larger case).

Call them and inquire.


Spraguead is right, the economy of economy seats usually allow a personal item that fits under the seat but nothing to go overhead. This is their way of forcing you to by a more expensive ticket. You will also find that the seat in front of you is closer. I didn't realize this tactic until the last flight I took to Las Vegas from North Carolina

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Sep 13, 2019 09:42:29   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
alandg46 wrote:
Several years ago we were returning home via a commuter plane from Albany, NY connecting to a flight at Newark. I keep my camera gear in a backpack stuffed inside a roll-on sized for carry-on. I was told that it would have to be checked. I voiced my concern to a flight attendant. He understood and took my carry-on and personally loaded it in the luggage compartment. Then when we landed he hurried down and got my carry-on off first and delivered it to me. I was impressed and very grateful. The carry-on had my Nikon D800E and D500 along with 24-120 F4, 200-500, 16-35mm, and 70-200mm.
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Sep 13, 2019 10:13:22   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
mizzee wrote:
I’ve done a trip such as yours with all my gear and I’ll tell you it became a PITA very quickly. Think long and hard about all the stuff you’re taking. On our 6 week trip out west, I found that my 16-85 lens was on the camera 95% of the time. The other 5% was a 10-20. If you expect wildlife then add whichever light weight zoom lens. After that trip, I switched to micro 4/3s and never looked back.

Yes, I carry a body and three lenses {10-20mm, 18-135mm, 55-300mm} in the ThinkTank bag below - and it can hold a small laptop computer also. I have fit it under an airplane seat as carryon ..... but the OP started this off talking about two bodies and four lenses; driving from Hawaii is not a possibility, but I guess driving from LAX would have been an option.



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Sep 13, 2019 10:25:55   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
splatbass wrote:
I booked a flight to Las Vegas from Honolulu for a two week RV trip. I am taking a two cameras, and three or four lenses. It didn't say anything when I booked the flight, but the itinerary they sent (United) says no carry on bags probably due to a small plane from SFO to LAS. So I'm not sure what to do now. Cancel and pay the cancellation fee? Gate check backpack in carry on suitcase? Check a pelican case and risk theft? None of these options are ideal. It is a once in a lifetime kind of trip, with stops at national parks, etc., including the elk rut at Rocky Mountain NP, so it is essential I take my gear (photography is one of the prime reasons for the trip). I can take a personal item (I have a messenger bag that holds a camera and two small lenses), but the telephotos needed for wildlife won't fit.

Any advice?
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what airline is in question ? I would double check it; even the small plane inside Kenya didn't pose a problem ( with limits, of course )

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Sep 13, 2019 10:27:31   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Since for you this is an important photographic trip may I suggest that you call United and negotiate with them. If there is a fee to pay in my case I would be willing to pay for it.

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Sep 13, 2019 10:28:05   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
rehess wrote:
Any guidance about what "no carry on" means? Surely women can carry handbags - what can men carry?
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Carry on means that it MUST fit under the seat in front of you. Two cameras and multiple lenses will not meet that requirement. I would ship the cameras ahead. I believe you can ship it to a UPS Store or FedX location insured and they will hold it for you.

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Sep 13, 2019 10:35:46   #
pendennis
 
splatbass wrote:
Thanks everyone, there is some good advice here for me to consider. I discovered that it doesn't apply to Mileage Plus Premium members, and my fiance is a Mileage Plus 1K member, so hopefully that will work. But if not I need a backup plan so I'll consider all of these great ideas.

I'll pobably put my stuff in two bags, a messenger bag big enough for a camera and two lenses which will fit under the seat, and a smaller than normal backpack with the other lenses and second body.

The gear I'm taking is:

Nikon D750 and D5500
Nikon 24-120 F4
Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 G2
Nikon 300mm PF
Sigma 150-500mm (may leave home)
1.4x and 1.7x teleconverters
Nikon 35mm f1.8 (maybe)
Macbook Air

In my checked bag I'll put my Benro tripod and some minor accessories. I alway take a tripod in a checked bag and have never had a problem.
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I'd consider leaving the 150-500 and the Nikon 35mm. The T/C's will cover 420mm and 510mm, and you've gotten everything covered, except sub-24mm focal lengths. If the Tamron 70-200 is compatible with the 1.4 and 1.7 TC's, you have everything covered.

I like the 24-120 as a "walk around" lens.

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Sep 13, 2019 10:37:33   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
bpulv wrote:
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Carry on means that it MUST fit under the seat in front of you. Two cameras and multiple lenses will not meet that requirement. I would ship the cameras ahead. I believe you can ship it to a UPS Store or FedX location insured and they will hold it for you.

I asked because I thought requirement for small airplane might be more stringent. I know from experience that I can fit my bag under seat of standard airliner - and when I took a train trip I personally took an even smaller kit ..... but this inquiry was on behalf of OP, who has loftier goals.

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Sep 13, 2019 10:37:58   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
[quote=pendennis]I'd consider leaving the 150-500 and the Nikon 35mm. The T/C's will cover 420mm and 510mm, and you've gotten everything covered, except sub-24mm focal lengths. If the Tamron 70-200 is compatible with the 1.4 and 1.7 TC's, you have everything covered.

I like the 24-120 as a "walk around" lens.[/quote

I have a Tamron 18-400 which works great ( maybe rent one ? )

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Sep 13, 2019 10:42:59   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
rehess wrote:
I asked because I thought requirement for small airplane might be more stringent. I know from experience that I can fit my bag under seat of standard airliner - and when I took a train trip I personally took an even smaller kit ..... but this inquiry was on behalf of OP, who has loftier goals.


I would contact the airline and ask them the dimensional requirements on the aircraft type in question and go from their.

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Sep 13, 2019 10:57:28   #
btbg
 
billt1970 wrote:
I had a very similar problem yesterday when flying from Chicago to Little Rock, AK on a smaller plane after getting to Chicago from Baltimore on a 737.

I have a Think Tank airport bag that handles all my gear plus a laptop. As I was getting ready to board I noticed the gate agent tagging passenger’s larger carry-on bag. My problem with that was two fold: First the security of my gear; and second the significant risk of danger from all of the LiOn batteries that may NOT be placed in aircraft holds for fear of them starting a fire. Curiosly the gate attendant hadn’t even thought of that problem! So, since it was physically impossible to carry the bag onboard, I set about collecting and removing the LiOn batteries.

The three batteries for my DSLR were obvious, as was the laptop battery (I took the whole laptop with me). Then, the more I thought about it, there were others to be dealt with. I ended up removing three small specialty cameras (with built-in batteries) plus three batteries used for charging my electronic suite. In all it was about a dozen battery devices. Better safe than sorry that I might have left something behind that could have caught fire and caused my plane to crash!

I will be planning ahead for my return trip, where the outgoing flight will have similar carry-on restrictions. This is what btbg noted in his/her post. The suggestion is that we bring our bags to the gate, but be prepared to remove all potentially dangerous batteries and carry them on the aircraft. I believe that the theft risk in this scenario is minimal.

My real concern is the apparent lack of awareness of the potential problem by the gate attendant. I will be writing to United to have them be more careful in the future raking into consideration the issue of LiOn batteries when gate checking passenger bags.

Best Regards,

Bill Taylor
Gambrills, MD
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You are correct with the batteries. Failed to mention that. I get around that problem by having them already in my little personal carry on bag. That way no matter whether they make me check my carry on or not I have already separated them out.

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Sep 13, 2019 11:02:09   #
btbg
 
splatbass wrote:
Thanks everyone, there is some good advice here for me to consider. I discovered that it doesn't apply to Mileage Plus Premium members, and my fiance is a Mileage Plus 1K member, so hopefully that will work. But if not I need a backup plan so I'll consider all of these great ideas.

I'll pobably put my stuff in two bags, a messenger bag big enough for a camera and two lenses which will fit under the seat, and a smaller than normal backpack with the other lenses and second body.

The gear I'm taking is:

Nikon D750 and D5500
Nikon 24-120 F4
Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 G2
Nikon 300mm PF
Sigma 150-500mm (may leave home)
1.4x and 1.7x teleconverters
Nikon 35mm f1.8 (maybe)
Macbook Air

In my checked bag I'll put my Benro tripod and some minor accessories. I alway take a tripod in a checked bag and have never had a problem.
Thanks everyone, there is some good advice here fo... (show quote)


Do not leave your 150-500 behind. There is the potential for a lot of wildlife photography. Mule deer, bighorn sheep, etc... If you don't have your big lens you will be disappointed. If I were leaving a lens it would be the 300 unless it is a 2.8. You cover that range with your zoom lenses, so it appears to be redundant. I would also probably leave one of the converters.

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Sep 13, 2019 11:48:44   #
harry-j
 
Two things, United's lowest fare economy tickets do not include a carry on beyond one personal item (purse, etc.) The next fare class will allow an additional carry on. The AMT to send your gear separately or rent when you get there is about the same as the upgraded fare. With that being said, they're not going to check if you have one carry on or two... they're too busy at the gate!

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Sep 13, 2019 12:41:34   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
I have flown on many small planes with camera equipment. I use a small camera bag which will hold a full frame camera and two lenses which will fit under the seat. Other lenses are packed securely inside a regular carryon bag which I carry on the aircraft and check at the entrance. No problem so far but I always have insurance. Also, Vegas gave me the toughest time with camera equipment in a carryon. Germany is in second place. Good luck to you and have a great time.

/George

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