And let us sue automobile manufacturers when an accident, or not, occurs seeing as they made it and heavily marketed it.
Why not sue any and all manufactures when someone misuses their product and is harmed. I know, let us sue Hershey's for obesity due to making a desirable product that is abused. Oh and definitely every manufacturer of any and all alcoholic beverages for the carnage on the highways that they promote by advertising in a lucrative way.
Why not sue any and all mines, farms, ranches truckers, railroads for supplying the means of making any product or transporting the raw materials and then the final product.
Finally let us sue the crap out of all marijuana growers and distributors who provide a dangerous product that destroys more lives each month than firearms have in the last 50 years. Also what is the monthly death rate for automobiles, how many severe injuries from automobiles each month.
You do know that firearms are Constitutionally protected and the possession of them?
democrats/libtards are the stupidest animals on the planet.

You have two great choices in firearms. I have essentially the same thing only mine is a full size Government Model 1911A1 with the addition of S&W target sights done by pistol smith, James Hoag, in the 1970's. My 870 is the Police Model with the addition of a Vang compensator system on the shorter barrel. Hans Vang, the designer is a long time friend of mine and did the job as a friend. Of course I have a few other firearms to choose from counting Glocks, revolvers, Walther PPK/S and so on. A couple of AR's round out that part of my collection.

My only comment is that you are well set up for one or two assailants PROVIDED you take them out with a few shots in the guns you have. But lately I have read of people defending their homes and family where there are multiple assailants, up to 5 in one case. Sorry my friend but with the stress of returning fire and even carrying the 870 AND the Commander you will probably miss some shots. You probably have 13 rounds with both guns. That may not be enough from the training I have given to fellow officers. For me personally to protect my home the 30 round magazine is looking more and more necessary for that one chance in hell when I might need to be armed inside my own home.

I am not saying you are anti gun and I have read your posts showing me as much. I am just saying please don't disregard the 30 round magazine for the spray and pray type. I don't know if you have been in police work or are an average gun owner. For those in police work there is a lot of stress from being in a real life gunfight. Running from position to position if outside, reloading when necessary, the almost positive chance of not hitting the target with every shot and the probability of even hits not immediately incapacitating the assailant.

Dennis

Dennis, as I commented to someone else; to get to me the bad guys are going to have come about 10 feet down a hallway, kick down a door then try to all pile through that 30" opening. It's my version of channeling the VC or NVA through a narrow gap in the barbed wire right into the muzzle of an M-60.

I am both well trained and proficient with both weapons. My first job after being discharged from the army in 1966 was as a police officer. I have drawn my pistol in crises (a Smith Model 19 back then).

You point is well taken about extra rounds and multiple assailants, but I would like for the bullets to stay in the house and not jeopardize the neighbors. I can see the 5.56 round going out through one of the den windows and straight into a neighbors house.

I used to own a Browning remake of the Model 1886, chambered in .45-70. I could shoot silhouettes out to 1K yards with it, but it took a lot of compressed loads with 3f do get that range.

I carry a Black Hawk with a 4 5/8 barrel and hot .45 Colt reloads, when I'm in the woods with my camera.

My only point, was that the Remington load is good in the house, and 405gr @ 1300 fps, and 1600 ft/lb will make anyone sit down and reassess their desire to stay in the fight. Of course there are loads, like the Buffalo Bore, which kick out the same 405gr round @ around 2K fps.

I have a couple of 870's placed around my home with extended mag tubes, just in case. However, my primary gun is a Remington 1100 in 12 ga., also with an extended mag. Six in the tube, one up the spout. I also don't use double-ought buck. I went to #4 buckshot some years back; it doesn't over-penetrate the way double-ought does.

BTW - I do keep a .45 Combat Commander in the nightstand. However, it's loaded with 10-round Wilson mags, plus two spares. I figure 31 rounds should be enough.

Dennis, as I commented to someone else; to get to me the bad guys are going to have come about 10 feet down a hallway, kick down a door then try to all pile through that 30" opening. It's my version of channeling the VC or NVA through a narrow gap in the barbed wire right into the muzzle of an M-60.

I am both well trained and proficient with both weapons. My first job after being discharged from the army in 1966 was as a police officer. I have drawn my pistol in crises (a Smith Model 19 back then).

You point is well taken about extra rounds and multiple assailants, but I would like for the bullets to stay in the house and not jeopardize the neighbors. I can see the 5.56 round going out through one of the den windows and straight into a neighbors house.