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Aug 27, 2019 08:10:24   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
Bill_de wrote:
How about battery life?

Blanket statements almost always require a little back peddling.

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This one had to come up; it is yesterday's news. This was true for the first generation of Sony full-frame cameras. It is true that MILCs use more juice because they sensors are "live" all the time (which is the very reason why they are technologically more advanced). Sony completely redesigned their batteries for their third generation (like my Sony A7 III), and the problem no longer exists. I travel with just one spare battery (like I used to with my Nikon) and never had a problem. I have never depleted a full battery in one day.

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Aug 27, 2019 08:11:13   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
CO wrote:
A DSLR optical viewfinder basically has unlimited resolution and instantaneous response. With electronic viewfinders, distant objects can look a little grainy because of the limited resolution of the EVF. There's still some lag when panning with an EVF. They still have a long way to go before an EVF can match an OVF in those respects.




Mirrorless are good for stationary and slow consistent moving subjects. If there is any action or erratic movement at all the lag is painful, IMHO.

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Aug 27, 2019 08:11:42   #
Low Budget Dave
 
I usually recommend people try out the Sony a6000 to see if they like it. The a6000 is the most popular dedicated camera of the last 15 years for a reason: It is small, inexpensive, and focuses as fast as a DSLR. It doesn't have the image stabilization or waterproofing of the newest cameras, but it is less than half the price.

It is mirrorless, so it is not technically a DSLR, but it is has most of the same strengths.

The only downside is that there are not as many Sony-style lenses to choose from, so if you want to buy more lenses next year, there are fewer choices.

I also recommend that people look at the Canon T6, (or the T6i if you have a little extra budget.) The T6i is a better camera, and is slightly upgraded in every way. It is not stuff that you really need though. For example, it has a tilting screen, and you can control it with your smartphone.

The Nikon D3500 is roughly equivalent to the other two, and maybe slightly cheaper. It is slightly smaller than the T6, but slightly newer, has a higher resolution sensor, and a better battery life. Most of the differences are matters of personal preference. For example, it uses Bluetooth instead of NFC.

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Aug 27, 2019 08:15:37   #
bkwaters
 
Bill Thrill wrote:
I have had a canon powershot for sometime now and I pretty much get the idea of the iso, shutter speed, and aperture. So now I want to buy my first DSLR because I know they are much more versitile and a point and shoot camera. Where should I start and what is the best beginner DSLR?


If you mainly want to play with a variety of lenses, the Nikon D3500 or Canon SL3. But if you want the best beginner inexpensive camera, it's the Canon M50. Despite what many say, unless you need the best motion tracking, mirrorless is the way to go. Being able to see the actual photo before you take it, even through the viewfinder, trumps the advantages the DSLRs.

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Aug 27, 2019 08:23:57   #
wetreed
 
To answer the question you asked without going into the state of the contemporary world of photography. You should go with the Nikon D3500 or the Nikon D5600. Both of these are excellent and very affordable. By going this route you will be in the Nikon system and be able to advantage of the many lenses available for Nikon, both Nikon brand and third party manufacturers. A lot of people like Cannon for the same reasons, but every time I have recommended Nikon to someone they have always been very happy with the advice. There is nothing wrong with Cannon,but you will never go wrong with Nikon.

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Aug 27, 2019 08:28:17   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
JD750 wrote:
Of course. But someone starting out has to consider what system they want to invest in for the future so they can try to maximize the use of their limited dollars. DSLR’s will be around for a while but sales will decrease as more and more the people move toward mirrorless systems. These are new lens systems we are talking about, not just bodies but entire body and lens systems.

What you are saying sounds much like what was said when DSLR’s first appeared. Looking back, would you tell someone to buy an SLR when DSLR were the coming technology?
Of course. But someone starting out has to consid... (show quote)


Yes I would tell someone new to buy a DSLR because I have been using SLR's/DSLR's for years and simply enjoy using them. My enjoyment means a lot to me. If you want to tell a new person to go mirrorless than that is your choice because you like the new style of cameras. I choose the DSLR style. Each of us can enjoy what we like using.

Dennis

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Aug 27, 2019 08:38:21   #
dan59019 Loc: Washington Mi
 
Not sure why anyone would recommend that someone change from one brand to another unless the person expressly asked to change. At the risk of offending - similar cameras form any recognized manufacturer will do pretty much do the same thing. It introduces a whole new learning curve and frustration.

It also seems that many are worried that Bill will soon outgrow a new camera. While I have purchased several DSLR cameras with the idea that I had out grown my current camera. As I grow and learn the craft I've realized there really isn't a lot that I could not have done with one of my previous cameras. Kind of like if I buy a $10 shovel or a $50 dollar one they can both dig a hole.
Sorry if I have offended anyone.

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Aug 27, 2019 08:41:15   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
dan59019 wrote:
Not sure why anyone would recommend that someone change from one brand to another unless the person expressly asked to change. At the risk of offending - similar cameras form any recognized manufacturer will do pretty much do the same thing. It introduces a whole new learning curve and frustration.

It also seems that many are worried that Bill will soon outgrow a new camera. While I have purchased several DSLR cameras with the idea that I had out grown my current camera. As I grow and learn the craft I've realized there really isn't a lot that I could not have done with one of my previous cameras. Kind of like if I buy a $10 shovel or a $50 dollar one they can both dig a hole.
Sorry if I have offended anyone.
Not sure why anyone would recommend that someone c... (show quote)


Dan I doubt you have offended anyone. You certainly have a right to your opinion.

As for the shovel question I suspect I would take the shovel for $50.00 because I just recently broke a cheap shovel when the handle snapped off. I would have been better off with the more expensive shovel in the long run. It had better quality and was built for long hard usage. Cameras are in that same category, to a point.

Dennis

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Aug 27, 2019 08:43:08   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
Bill Thrill wrote:
I have had a canon powershot for sometime now and I pretty much get the idea of the iso, shutter speed, and aperture. So now I want to buy my first DSLR because I know they are much more versitile and a point and shoot camera. Where should I start and what is the best beginner DSLR?

You are not really a beginner and it sounds like you will not leave photography anytime soon. So take Kmgw9v's advice and buy a camera you will likely not want to upgrade soon due to any limitations.

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Aug 27, 2019 08:45:53   #
dan59019 Loc: Washington Mi
 
Dennis I'd agree with you on the shovel and would admit that each time I've upgraded I have researched and bought the best DSLR and lens combo I could afford, weighting my decision somewhat on the lens.

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Aug 27, 2019 08:47:54   #
rdemarco52 Loc: Wantagh, NY
 
Excellent advice. I've been there.

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Aug 27, 2019 08:56:09   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
zug55 wrote:
This one had to come up; it is yesterday's news. This was true for the first generation of Sony full-frame cameras. It is true that MILCs use more juice because they sensors are "live" all the time (which is the very reason why they are technologically more advanced). Sony completely redesigned their batteries for their third generation (like my Sony A7 III), and the problem no longer exists. I travel with just one spare battery (like I used to with my Nikon) and never had a problem. I have never depleted a full battery in one day.
This one had to come up; it is yesterday's news. T... (show quote)


Thanks. I was unaware that Sony had stepped up on this one.

However, that doesn't pertain to all MILCs. So a blanket statement is still an exaggeration.

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Aug 27, 2019 09:07:27   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Visit a camera store and try out different models

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Aug 27, 2019 09:08:50   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
ggab wrote:


Mirrorless are good for stationary and slow consistent moving subjects. If there is any action or erratic movement at all the lag is painful, IMHO.


I never heard that before. The response of the MILC focusing system is instantaneous. It is the other way around: the lag is with the DSLR. The sensor in a DSLR does not know what you see up front until you press the button and the mirror lifts. In a MILC, the sensor is live and you see exactly what the camera will record once you press the button, including white balance, histogram, overexposed areas, eye AF point, etc. The most advanced Sony autofocus systems can focus up to 60 times a second--perfect for action and "erratic movement."

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Aug 27, 2019 09:15:59   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
So you’re looking for what I call a system camera, one with interchangeable lenses plus access to all the other myriad of accessories available to DSLR owners. Just be sure you get a DSLR with specs that are better than your Powershot - sensor size, pixel count, lens quality, etcetera. There are lots of them but maybe stick with Canon if that’s what your familiar with.

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