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Aug 10, 2019 10:22:53   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
thom w wrote:
How can you in one breath say there is no definition for assault rifle and in the next breath claim that something is not an assault rifle? With no definition how can you make this judgement, or were you just making shit up?


Answer is really quite simple. An assault Rifle is a military rifle which can be used as an AUTOMATIC weapon.An assault WEAPON does not in fact exist, the term is a made up term putposely used to confuse the public in to thinking that a semi auto weapon is a military assault Rifle. The current semi auto rifle merely looks like the military assault Rifle. The anti gun nuts want to ban assault weapons, fine, but the AR 15 is merely another semi auto rifle, of which there are many and full auto assault rifles are currently NOT for sale to the general public. Banning the AR 15 wont change anything. other than to make all thed AR 15's on the street much more expensive, and only criminals will have them, as they don't follow the laws anyway

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Aug 10, 2019 10:25:26   #
waynecrowley Loc: enerywhere/anywhere
 
First, let's try to define an assault weapon. Is it and AR 15 which only looks like a military weapon? What if I take a Ruger 10/22 and add a pistol grip and a carry handle to make it look similar to the M 16. Does that make it an assault weapon? The AR 15 is a powerful rifle, but not nearly as powerful as the average hunting rifle. People think it looks scary, therefore they are afraid of it.

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Aug 10, 2019 10:28:15   #
Angmo
 
Th AK is an ugly rifle.

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Aug 10, 2019 10:41:25   #
FrumCA
 
Feiertag wrote:
Einstein, you are about as dense as the other nut job, LWW.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/world/ak-47-mass-shootings.html

This is an interesting article. Think I'll buy an AK-47 now.

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Aug 10, 2019 10:45:13   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Feiertag wrote:
Why on earth is the USA government not doing background checks on potential gun buyers? All talk and no action from the worst president ever.

Even if it finally gets passed to do checks, why would you still have assault weapons sold to the general public? Simply unbelievable.


We already do background checks.
Because of due process we have to wait until a crime committed or the person admits to bad intentions.
Not having a 2nd Amendment, I can understand why a foreigner would think it’s okay to disarm its population.
Your prejudice to”black” reminds me of our democrat party.

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Aug 10, 2019 10:46:27   #
FrumCA
 
waynecrowley wrote:
First, let's try to define an assault weapon. Is it and AR 15 which only looks like a military weapon? What if I take a Ruger 10/22 and add a pistol grip and a carry handle to make it look similar to the M 16. Does that make it an assault weapon? The AR 15 is a powerful rifle, but not nearly as powerful as the average hunting rifle. People think it looks scary, therefore they are afraid of it.


Good points. The problem with definitions is that the mostly left leaning anti-gunners refuse to accept or understand the definition of an assault rifle. There are very clear definitions available but they are so brainwashed with talking points that are designed to instill fear for any gun into the conversation that they don't realize how foolish their anti-gun arguments are.

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Aug 10, 2019 10:46:56   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Feiertag wrote:
So then why is Trump (on TV as I type) saying he will look into getting meaningful background checks?


Reforming hippa laws, but that means nancy will have to work.

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Aug 10, 2019 11:00:08   #
pendennis
 
WNYShooter wrote:
LOL, Every legit gun show promoter and operation out there carries liability insurance for their event. You will not find a single underwriter for these events today who does not require that ALL firearm sales transactions made on the premises during the event be conducted through a standard Federal NICS check.

The so called "Gun Show Loophole" was actually closed many years by the insurance companies, no laws were needed.


And in most instances, they've done away with the so-called "parking lot sales". There are usually signs posted at shows that transactions anywhere other than in the show hall can't be made. And, I've seen deputy sheriffs and police officers enforce it. It has to do with the trespass laws, which can be felonious depending on the jurisdiction. Criminal trespass results in confiscation of the firearm.

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Aug 10, 2019 11:03:07   #
Angmo
 
yhtomit wrote:
Reforming hippa laws, but that means nancy will have to work.



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Aug 10, 2019 11:06:31   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Any licensed dealer is required to submit the pesky yellow sheet with documentation of every sale to the ATF. Local municipalities may impose additional requirements. If your belief is true; that no background checks are being done, why is it the fault of the President? He should personally undertake to do each individual background check?

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Aug 10, 2019 11:11:06   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Feiertag wrote:
Yes, in government. Your daft dodging coward leader is a prime example.


What branch of the service did Obama serve in? What branch did YOU serve in?

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Aug 10, 2019 11:14:46   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Angmo wrote:
Th AK is an ugly rifle.


Also junk in comparison.

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Aug 10, 2019 11:18:51   #
Angmo
 
LWW wrote:
Also junk in comparison.


It does run well though. Very reliable.

My M16 & AR never had issues though. 6.5mm would be a better all around round. Like the Grendel. But it’s case capacity....

We do need to come up with a new rifle caliber. 5.56 has its limitations.

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Aug 10, 2019 11:19:43   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
LWW wrote:
Why would it go down?


Shame on you LWW. You just asked a lefty to provided FACTS.

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Aug 10, 2019 11:21:13   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
waynecrowley wrote:
First, let's try to define an assault weapon. Is it and AR 15 which only looks like a military weapon? What if I take a Ruger 10/22 and add a pistol grip and a carry handle to make it look similar to the M 16. Does that make it an assault weapon? The AR 15 is a powerful rifle, but not nearly as powerful as the average hunting rifle. People think it looks scary, therefore they are afraid of it.


The dirty little secret of the Hollywood left is that Hollywood has used product placement has made the AR15/M16 appear to be the ultimate weapon of mass destruction this side of the Davey Crockett.

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