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Jul 17, 2019 13:53:24   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Overreaction? I believe Trump will easily win reelection with democrats tripping all over themselves seeing how far left they can go and how much they want to tax the working guy to give all the free crap to those not working and illegals. Democrats are a new level of crazy and Americans will not support that.


Our little pissing contest is no more than recognizing the whack jobs in both parties for what they are. To say one side is worse than the other is laughable. The speculation regarding the bs arguments is even funnier.

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Jul 17, 2019 13:56:16   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Dave I know you don’t like President Trump. That is a given. No problem there. We disagree and we each have a right to our opinion. But seriously, even if Trump isn’t perfect in your eyes. Even if you think he is the worst President ever can you honestly tell us that our Congress on both sides is working hard to make America a great country.

Yes I can attack the Left because ever since Trump was elected the Left has attacked Trump from all sides, his hair, his wife’s shoes, Ivanka’s clothing line, the little boy, everything about Trump and his family. But the Left has offered up division and hatred. They have offered up no substantial Bills for immigration reform or infrastructure as I mentioned. Lots of investigations upon investigations though that have so far gone nowhere.

You on the Left, yes I know you aren’t REALLY on the Left except for speech and actions, accuse Conservatives constantly of being Trumpettes just as Biden calls dregs of society and Hillary called us names as well. Do you honestly think we are all a bunch of F’n lunatics? It isn’t us that declare Trump insane though we have never met him. It isn’t us that parades around in vagina hats, howling at the moon. We don’t march around the streets in Pride parades while being naked or flaunting whips and chains. It isn’t us that wants to turn America’s freedoms into a socialist shithole to please a bunch of Muslims and AOC led Democrats. Check the streets of Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego and other Liberal run cities. See the syringes on the ground on the parks, take note of the piss and shit right in the downtown areas of these cities. Take note of the once medieval diseases now in America. You can personally thank Liberal management for these niceties. Tell us Dave that these are good things, you are proud of these great Liberal achievements. We will all be right here.

Dennis
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Your attempts to lend some sort of credibility to a well documented liar and disrespectful POS is admirable, but nothing more than a feeble attempt to justify supporting him.

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Jul 17, 2019 14:38:54   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
DaveO wrote:
Our little pissing contest is no more than recognizing the whack jobs in both parties for what they are. To say one side is worse than the other is laughable. The speculation regarding the bs arguments is even funnier.


I agree that idiots on both sides no longer know the word bi-partisan. Whose fault is that? Who knows. Neither side is doing their job. Then throw in the four women crying about being "of color" and being picked upon as they spew their own brand of racism and it is a shi* show.

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Jul 17, 2019 14:43:01   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
DaveO wrote:
Your attempts to lend some sort of credibility to a well documented liar and disrespectful POS is admirable, but nothing more than a feeble attempt to justify supporting him.


I will support Trump until I have a reason not to. Something that shows me he is not working for the good of the country. Some sign that he is working against the US like the democrats are. I am not interested in crap from 40 years ago and I don't care how many affairs he had.

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Jul 17, 2019 15:35:39   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
DaveO wrote:
You must have forgotten all about Mitch and his proclamation. LOL! The piss poor behavior of the Dems is no worse than that of the Pubs during the previous administration.


Hey, the previous administration was marching towards socialism....
They made the American choice.

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Jul 17, 2019 16:47:24   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DaveO wrote:
You must have forgotten all about Mitch and his proclamation. LOL! The piss poor behavior of the Dems is no worse than that of the Pubs during the previous administration.


Mitch made the one proclamation. After that Mitch, McCain and Graham bent over backward to vote for Obama’s Bills. Compare that to the Democrats actually not doing a damn thing to help Trump even though they look like dumb asses in the process.

Three years ago every high Democrat spoke out loud and clear about illegal aliens being in America ILLEGALLY. There would be no jobs, nothing to attract them. Obama spoke eloquently about how they were taking jobs from minorities. But after Trump, three years later your very own Democrats are actually telling us there is no problem at the border while thousands are coming across. Freebies galore are offered to illegals once they arrive from driver’s licenses, to free medical to free education. Of course citizens nor veterans are offered such extravagant extras. A Congressional Democrat and her staff are even going South of the border telling illegals how to beat the system. The rule of law means nothing to Democrats.

The darling of the Left, AOC, has been to the border and spews outright lies about the detention centers, saying they are the same type as Hitler ran. Of course those lies are spread throughout the Democratic propaganda network. Other people go but report seeing of the kind she sees. Of course the Leftist agenda must be followed. The ends justify the means. Democrats will be stalling and working on the Trump investigations right up until he is re-elected. Then they will start all over again. Surely another group of Liberal women will claim he raped them 100 times over a 25 year period. Of course they were too afraid to file a police report.

Dennis

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Jul 17, 2019 17:13:20   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
DaveO wrote:
So you shit-slingers want to defend the POS by attacking the left?? The POS is the one driving the political discord and many in the world are moaning with regards to his behavior. You may opt to take note of the growing dissention in the Pub ranks over this moron. Neither party is doing their job which theoretically is to run the country and the next little show will be running out of money in September. I would also think that people in states like Idaho would be concerned about his disregard for environmental issues, but it's apparently more fun to jump on the trumpette bandwagon to hell.
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Me thinks you need a little tutorial n how laws get passed in this country. FIRST a law must be passed in the House. Unless that happens NO LAW GETS PASSED. NONE !!! The house is controled by the democrats. So they are to blame of no law gets passed. Therwfore thye POS in the White House has nothing to do with it if a law does not get to his desk. Call him any thing you like but if thye House sits on it's ass the president is not at fault.

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Jul 17, 2019 19:54:10   #
Tex-s
 
John_F wrote:
When the ACA was passed and President Obama said I could keep my doctor, my health insurance premium decreased and I could see any doctor I wished including my primary care doctor. No lie.


You are in the minority. After my policy was altered, I had less coverage, a tripled deductible, and still paid a few bucks more monthly. In 2015, February, in ONE morning I spent more out of pocket than the entirety of 2014. My kennelog shot, previously covered, cost me 125, the office visit copay for myself and for my daughter tripled from 20 to 60 dollars, and her very specialized asthma medication went from fully covered to 375 dollars. 620 out of pocket in one morning where the same visit would have been 40 dollars in 2014. I did the math recently, and it turns out that my medical expenditures since the ACA revamped what was a legal policy, for my daughter and I, the overall cost of our health care counting premiums and out of pocket has more than doubled.

As to the keeping the same doctor, both my wife's obgyn and my daughter's cardiologist retired early in lieu of dealing with all the changes in how and what they could not collect for their services. Not particularly convenient to search for either of those specialists.

Biden can take my plan and I'll keep his, thanks.

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Jul 17, 2019 20:06:05   #
waynecrowley Loc: enerywhere/anywhere
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Told many times all in the name of getting votes for the DNC. Still a lie. Though the Left still praises Obamacare there were still millions of people who were not covered. I guess that is supposed to be kept secret.

Dennis


When the ACA was enacted, my premiums doubled, co-pays increased, I had to change doctors. So much for being affordable

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Jul 17, 2019 20:20:30   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Tex-s wrote:
You are in the minority. After my policy was altered, I had less coverage, a tripled deductible, and still paid a few bucks more monthly. In 2015, February, in ONE morning I spent more out of pocket than the entirety of 2014. My kennelog shot, previously covered, cost me 125, the office visit copay for myself and for my daughter tripled from 20 to 60 dollars, and her very specialized asthma medication went from fully covered to 375 dollars. 620 out of pocket in one morning where the same visit would have been 40 dollars in 2014. I did the math recently, and it turns out that my medical expenditures since the ACA revamped what was a legal policy, for my daughter and I, the overall cost of our health care counting premiums and out of pocket has more than doubled.

As to the keeping the same doctor, both my wife's obgyn and my daughter's cardiologist retired early in lieu of dealing with all the changes in how and what they could not collect for their services. Not particularly convenient to search for either of those specialists.

Biden can take my plan and I'll keep his, thanks.
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Jul 18, 2019 00:45:46   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
waynecrowley wrote:
When the ACA was enacted, my premiums doubled, co-pays increased, I had to change doctors. So much for being affordable


Absolutely correct. Of course you know you are certainly not alone but that doesn't help much to know almost everyone is getting screwed. Thanks Obamacare for nothing at all. Now Biden wants to give us the same thing, almost word for word.

Dennis

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Jul 18, 2019 00:59:19   #
btbg
 
John_F wrote:
When the ACA was passed and President Obama said I could keep my doctor, my health insurance premium decreased and I could see any doctor I wished including my primary care doctor. No lie.


That must be nice for you. When the ACA passed my portion of my work insurance policy that comes out of my paycheck tripled and my coverage dropped. I did however get to keep my doctor. I just can't get in to see him unless I make an appointment two months out because so many doctors left Central Oregon that there is such a shortage that you can't get an appointment when you get sick. The only choice is to go to urgent care, which of course the insurance only covers at 80 percent.

My wife retired two years ago. Now 65 percent of my paycheck goes to pay my portion of my insurance and my wife's monthly payment. Aint the ACA great.

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Jul 18, 2019 01:05:50   #
btbg
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
I agree that idiots on both sides no longer know the word bi-partisan. Whose fault is that? Who knows. Neither side is doing their job. Then throw in the four women crying about being "of color" and being picked upon as they spew their own brand of racism and it is a shi* show.


Elaine, I have to disagree with you. Not about neither side doing their job, but about bi-partisanship. I don't want bi-partisanship. The Progressives want to move far to the left. Bi-partisanship means compromising with those lunatics. It is far better for congress to do nothing than to work in a bi-partisan way with the socialist agenda of the left.

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Jul 18, 2019 07:10:14   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
btbg wrote:
Elaine, I have to disagree with you. Not about neither side doing their job, but about bi-partisanship. I don't want bi-partisanship. The Progressives want to move far to the left. Bi-partisanship means compromising with those lunatics. It is far better for congress to do nothing than to work in a bi-partisan way with the socialist agenda of the left.


You are absolutely correct. I guess I was thinking of 30 years ago when the house and senate actually tried to half ass work for the American people. Now the democraps are bent on destroying the America we all know and love.

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Jul 18, 2019 07:33:56   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
btbg wrote:
Elaine, I have to disagree with you. Not about neither side doing their job, but about bi-partisanship. I don't want bi-partisanship. The Progressives want to move far to the left. Bi-partisanship means compromising with those lunatics. It is far better for congress to do nothing than to work in a bi-partisan way with the socialist agenda of the left.



Bipartisanship to democtats means doing it their way or the highway.
We can never compromise with them as it means moving left every time.
NEVER to the right.

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