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Sep 5, 2012 15:20:22   #
Wheezer1
 
I agree you should ask permisssion to use other's pictures but does it fall under copyright laws if it is just posted on a public web site?

CaptainC wrote:
It is copyright infringement pure and simple and it is illegal. Of course if you ask and get permission, then it would be fine.

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Sep 5, 2012 15:22:34   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
why don't you offer to BUY the photos?

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Sep 5, 2012 15:24:15   #
rachcobb Loc: Alabama
 
Just ask first, they may even send you a better file to print! Plus that's a pretty good ego stroke to have someone think you work is worthy of their wall...

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Sep 5, 2012 15:32:56   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
Wheezer1 wrote:
I agree you should ask permisssion to use other's pictures but does it fall under copyright laws if it is just posted on a public web site?

CaptainC wrote:
It is copyright infringement pure and simple and it is illegal. Of course if you ask and get permission, then it would be fine.


Of course it does. What does where is is displayed have to do with it. A book is in the public library - does that mean it loses its copyright?

I realize this is why people steal things off the net - they are not necessarily malicious (some are) they are just ignorant of the law. Or they know the law and choose to be a thief anyway.

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Sep 5, 2012 16:59:23   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Not without permission, that includes making changes.
If you want to show your appreciation, tell the photographer that you like it and what it is that you like about it.

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Sep 5, 2012 19:45:03   #
busted_shutter
 
Did anyone else not catch the "change" in the original question? See something in the original photo you don't like? No problem, just remove it. Want to add a family member to it? Use any number of editing programs and add to the original. Surprised no-one else mentioned it.

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Sep 5, 2012 19:51:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Max Kurz wrote:
Twice on this forum, I've seen photo's that I consider outstanding - one was of a day lilly a few months back and the other was a blue nightscape, moon over water, just a few days ago, which when lighten up in Photo Shop looks super.
My question is this, since these pictures were placed on an open public area, is it OK to download, change, enlarge and display them in my home. The day lilly would look really good enlarged in a fabric frameless setting.
Am I stealing someones work or just showing appreciation for a talent I don't have ?
Twice on this forum, I've seen photo's that I cons... (show quote)

Take a look at the Rules. There might be something there about that.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-1-1.html#7982

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Sep 5, 2012 20:16:54   #
Max Kurz Loc: Newark, De
 
The "change" in the original question referred to the night-moon reflection over water. The location,composition and most everything else appeared perfect, but to my eye the color was way too dark,[ maybe it's my aging eyes ]
When I was fooling around with it and lighten it up by 45%, it just popped and came alive.[ for me ! ]
I've seen these changes done quite a few times here, usually in response to a question on how to improve a print.
Not every shot has the same appeal to everyone, and as I initally indicated, I was trying to make a great shot super.
I will try to attach the modified print.



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Sep 5, 2012 21:06:59   #
busted_shutter
 
Might have been easier if you had explained that in your original post. With-out seeing the original, it's hard to say which was the better photo. It may indeed be an improvement over the original, but then again, it may not be the originating photographer's intent. Yes, you've seen similar editing done, but for the mostpart, it was done with the photographer's consent(beforehand). Whereas UHH is a site for all grades of photographer(beginning novice to pro) to display their work, it is also a very valuable tool in education. As it was said earlier, there are rules. There's a reason for them. No offense meant...just sayin'. It'd be interesting to hear from the original photographer. I'll get off my pedastel now.

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Sep 6, 2012 05:54:21   #
katbandit Loc: new york city
 
it is nice to a least let the person who took the photo know that you like their work and would love it if they could make a copy to hang in their home..however my question is...how would anyone know if they made a copy and hung it in their home?..i post shots on my Facebook half size with copyright ..so far i haven't seen one being re used or placed in any ads..lol. and a few of my friends have emailed me to say that they used a few as a screensaver..personally unless it involves loads of money how is it hurting anyone that uses a photo for personal use..
the internet is very dangerous to those who are making a living at their work..so when posting they should place a watermark throughout the photo and flatten the image in photoshop ..then the photo is mostly unusable..

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Sep 6, 2012 06:03:00   #
gfinlayson
 
I would ask the respective owners of the photos if they mind you downloading and printing them, firstly, out of courtesy, but also due to the fact that the photographer retains copyright of the original image.

If you're going to have them printed in a lab, then you may well need some form of copyright release.

The lab I use ask for proof of copyright or a copyright release from the photographer before printing any photos that look anything more than 'snapshots'.

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Sep 6, 2012 06:04:37   #
MarkDG
 
The doctrine of fair use covers most issues with photography, but hasn't really come into line with digital photography. It isn't necessarily "wrong" if you're looking at it legally, but it might be, no one really knows for sure. Be safe and ask permission.

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Sep 6, 2012 06:14:55   #
randymoe
 
Who is foolish enough to post a printable high resolution image anywhere? That is asking for theft. It is the same as if I printed anything and nailed it to a tree where anyone can see it and anomonously take it.

Let's get real. If I leave my gold coins laying around in public places they will be taken. Is that theft or stupidity?

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Sep 6, 2012 06:24:19   #
AdkHiker Loc: Northeast
 
Danilo wrote:
Just because I park my car outside, and don't bring it inside, doesn't mean it's available for all to use as they please. The property of others should be respected even if it's left unprotected. We may not know who owns "this or that", but we all know what "we" own and don't own. I only put MY photos on MY walls, because people will assume they are mine even if they are not.



Well Said :-)

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Sep 6, 2012 06:59:29   #
randymoe
 
Yes, but do we leave the keys in the car with it running. There is an expectation that we reasonably secure our property. Posting full resolution images is not reasonable protection of your object.

Yes the Internet provides a chain of evidential ownership, but does that provide sufficient protection of continued ownership. We do lock things up for a reason and yes theft is theft.

Fools are mugged and robbed all the time. I think some call that 'business.'

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