Frank T wrote:
What you perceive as a heartbeat is not a measure of viability.
If you were to give birth at 18 weeks, it would be a miscarriage, not a birthday.
That line is moving all the time Frank. Right now it's at 21 weeks.
Rose42 wrote:
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A girl hands him what’s left of his ass.
Merlin1300
Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
Frank T wrote:
What would our Founding Fathers do?
I think they would kick you out of our country.
mwalsh wrote:
Yes they did.
Abortion has been around just about forever.
C-sections almost as long. Shakespeare used it in Macbeth. It was rare in the middle ages and likely most mothers did not survive.
The first reported succesful c-section in America was documented in 1794.
So yes, the founders had knowledge of the procedures and society at the time had limited abilities to perform both.
what do you think the survival rate was??? mothers & babies??...I imagine many went septic.
Frank T wrote:
How cute. You're trying so hard to write like an adult.
Well bless your heart.
Little Frankie, ever the child trying to act like an adult.
Rose42 wrote:
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Very informative Rose, thanks.
Rose42 wrote:
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I have read that the possession of a. couple of Giradonis may have been responsible for the survival of the group. Natives in the west were familiar with muskets, even had a few. Some groups could have easily killed the members of the party, taken the muskets they did have and changed the balance of power amongst the tribes...at least for a time.
But when encountering a new group of natives, they would demonstrate that they had a rifle that did not make a loud noise, did not produce a smoke cloud to disclose the location of the shooter, and produced continuous fire instead of becoming a club after one shot. I doubt the party disclosed they only had two of the rifles.
The perception of vastly superior fire power made the party seem like a much more formidable force than it actually was, and the natives let them pass through. Truth is, the party was invariably greatly outnumbered and could have easily been overwhelmed by several of the tribes they encountered.
mwalsh wrote:
I have read that the possession of a. couple of Giradonis may have been responsible for the survival of the group. Natives in the west were familiar with muskets, even had a few. Some groups could have easily killed the members of the party, taken the muskets they did have and changed the balance of power amongst the tribes...at least for a time.
But when encountering a new group of natives, they would demonstrate that they had a rifle that did not make a loud noise, did not produce a smoke cloud to disclose the location of the shooter, and produced continuous fire instead of becoming a club after one shot. I doubt the party disclosed they only had two of the rifles.
The perception of vastly superior fire power made the party seem like a much more formidable force than it actually was, and the natives let them pass through. Truth is, the party was invariably greatly outnumbered and could have easily been overwhelmed by several of the tribes they encountered.
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Interesting. If the natives had gotten their hands on those rifles I wonder what effect that may have had on history
Merlin1300
Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
And imagine if they had a Gatling Gun !!
I've flown in aircraft with 20mm Vulcan cannons on either side
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M61_VulcanNo - - you do NOT want one of these to be MAD at you !!
Frank T wrote:
Why? Your side doesnt consider that the right to bear arms ment you could have a musket.
When you come around, I may also come around.
The musket was the most advanced firearm of the 1700’s.
The automobile, the refrigerator, the radio, the television, the microwave, the semi automatic firearm and a host of other things were non-existent in the 1700’s. Does that disqualify any item not specifically mentioned in the Constitution as out of the favor of the founding fathers?
Does this same logic cover medical practices of 2019?
I am interested in your answer.
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Rose42 wrote:
Interesting. If the natives had gotten their hands on those rifles I wonder what effect that may have had on history
They did at the Little Big Horn ... it didn’t end well for the visiting team.
LWW wrote:
They did at the Little Big Horn ... it didn’t end well for the visiting team.
Kinda wondered about that leftist propaganda....
A win for the Calvary was called a victory
A win for the Indians was called a slaughter
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