iPhone vs Samsung cameras, is one better?
Jun 21, 2019 09:45:03 #
danbir1
Loc: North Potomac, MD
No, phone cameras have not "caught up" to traditional cameras.
Unless all you look for is posting online.
Missing are DOF control, telephoto shooting, super wide angle shooting, good quality night photos, and the list is L O N G.
But again (this subject was discussed here many times), if you are happy with your cell phone.. use it, don't let us photographers stand in your way.
Unless all you look for is posting online.
Missing are DOF control, telephoto shooting, super wide angle shooting, good quality night photos, and the list is L O N G.
But again (this subject was discussed here many times), if you are happy with your cell phone.. use it, don't let us photographers stand in your way.
Jun 21, 2019 11:23:02 #
gvarner
Loc: Central Oregon Coast
danbir1 wrote:
No, phone cameras have not "caught up" to traditional cameras.
Unless all you look for is posting online.
Missing are DOF control, telephoto shooting, super wide angle shooting, good quality night photos, and the list is L O N G.
But again (this subject was discussed here many times), if you are happy with your cell phone.. use it, don't let us photographers stand in your way.
Unless all you look for is posting online.
Missing are DOF control, telephoto shooting, super wide angle shooting, good quality night photos, and the list is L O N G.
But again (this subject was discussed here many times), if you are happy with your cell phone.. use it, don't let us photographers stand in your way.
Your snobbery is showing. A camera that has phone features still takes photos and it’s users are still photographers, and some of them can produce mighty damn fine photos with their kind of camera.
Jun 21, 2019 11:35:14 #
I'm a traditional photographer. When I was poor and young I had one film camera. My goal was to make prints. It was all you could do.
Someone invented the internet. It might have been Al Gore. Before that Steven Sasson at Kodak invented digital cameras.
I'm not poor now and have 6 cameras. None shoot film. One camera is also a phone.
Everything has changed. I still make prints. My goal has shifted from only making prints to communicating through images, including moving images and "on-line" images. To leave out the phone from that process seems short sighted.
A new personal goal is to expand my digital and phone camera skills to enhance what I already know how to do.
Someone invented the internet. It might have been Al Gore. Before that Steven Sasson at Kodak invented digital cameras.
I'm not poor now and have 6 cameras. None shoot film. One camera is also a phone.
Everything has changed. I still make prints. My goal has shifted from only making prints to communicating through images, including moving images and "on-line" images. To leave out the phone from that process seems short sighted.
A new personal goal is to expand my digital and phone camera skills to enhance what I already know how to do.
Jun 21, 2019 11:50:08 #
To Each His Own....This topic could, and apparently has been, argued ad nauseum. However its fun to watch the proponents of each system/brand duke it out. Professionals, dedicated amateurs, hobbyists will most always use high quality DSLR's/Mirrorless for their work. Cell phones and their associated cameras, within their current limitations, will appeal to those who don't desire the complexity of DSLR's, Bridge Cameras or other larger photo gear, while still allowing them to take what they want for web posting, sharing, family friends, spur of the moment captures and of course....the never ending and irritating 'Selfies'. Use what you want, for what ever use you want, you're still the 'photographer' in charge. Its nice to have a cell phone as a back up, just in case.
Besides, who says you can't use both...😊😊 Cheers, now lets go have a beer...🍻
Besides, who says you can't use both...😊😊 Cheers, now lets go have a beer...🍻
Jun 21, 2019 12:07:44 #
chasgroh wrote:
...and, just to show skeptics that good results can be achieved, here's one using an S4 iphone years ago...of course, I helped it a bit, but not much!
More examples such as this folks. Let's see what these phone cams... can do!! This thread is a blast
Jun 21, 2019 12:35:16 #
rck281 wrote:
The "younger crowd" are not on this forum!
Again, with respect: I really wish we would stop characterizing this forum by our age. When I was a teen fresh out of foster care, I had the fortune of becoming associated with a ham radio club that was comprised mostly of older folks whom I looked up to.
Now to UHH: There may be other folks out there who are so-called millennials but so what? Let's be inclusive! That ham radio club I referred to took me in and taught me many things including about being befriended by older folks and my peers. We got along very well and I like to think that I did a lot of catching up with my outlook on people, life in general along with ham radio. I had a similar experience in photography. When I wanted to get started in photography, it was a next generation friend who got me started - even took me in by helping out with providing pictures for the college's yearbook.
UHH is for every generation. Period.
We all on UHH have a common interest of capturing life using photography. Let's all accept each other and learn about this wonderful experience. Photography can be life's great equalizer.
Jun 21, 2019 12:42:53 #
Mombie wrote:
These were both taking on my iPhone 8 and then edited in Snapseed...and a picture of my hedgehog taken in portrait mode...because this is the ugly hedgehog after all
Absolutely marvelous pictures. Is that really a hedghog in your lap? That is so mega-cute
He should be our mascot!!Would have loved to see them in full resolution. Nonetheless, wonderful pics.
Jun 21, 2019 12:45:40 #
Jun 21, 2019 13:04:05 #
danbir1 wrote:
No, phone cameras have not "caught up" to traditional cameras.
Unless all you look for is posting online.
Missing are DOF control, telephoto shooting, super wide angle shooting, good quality night photos, and the list is L O N G.
But again (this subject was discussed here many times), if you are happy with your cell phone.. use it, don't let us photographers stand in your way.
Unless all you look for is posting online.
Missing are DOF control, telephoto shooting, super wide angle shooting, good quality night photos, and the list is L O N G.
But again (this subject was discussed here many times), if you are happy with your cell phone.. use it, don't let us photographers stand in your way.
So my first 120 TLR with only a few shutter speeds to change and my Great Aunt's little antique Kodak Brownie (I think it was a No. 2) box camera weren't "real" cameras either?
And since many cell phones are basically a P&S camera with a phone grafted on then it must follow that people who use P&S cameras aren't using "real" cameras and therefore are not photographers either???
As to the end use, posting online is the modern version of the family photo album (or shoe box) full of the photographs/snapshots of the average person's life and family.
And if producing images for sale or exhibit in large prints or similar is your criteria for "photographer" a lot of famous people would get dropped out of the history books in their fields. Van Gogh comes to mind - he only sold one painting in his life - just a few months before he died. Yet today museums almost go to war to get his works in their collections or just as a traveling exhibit.
Jun 21, 2019 13:13:21 #
Forgot, the cameras in cell phones (or in some cases the P&S camera with a cell phone added) are very good.
Many photography teachers at public schools (and probably elsewhere) let or in some cases require students to start with a cell phone to level the playing field since many students cannot afford a "real camera". Usually during that stage of the class they concentrate on ID of subjects and composition. Learning to "see the light" etc.
A few years ago the annual Automobile Club of Southern California photo contest here in California had an absolutely great image taken with a cell phone as the 2nd place winner statewide. #1 was done with a large format sheet film camera and a few of the other top 10s were P&S images.
Many photography teachers at public schools (and probably elsewhere) let or in some cases require students to start with a cell phone to level the playing field since many students cannot afford a "real camera". Usually during that stage of the class they concentrate on ID of subjects and composition. Learning to "see the light" etc.
A few years ago the annual Automobile Club of Southern California photo contest here in California had an absolutely great image taken with a cell phone as the 2nd place winner statewide. #1 was done with a large format sheet film camera and a few of the other top 10s were P&S images.
Jun 21, 2019 13:27:22 #
Hey grey panther, I am one too. From medium format to 35 mm film. I then was an early adopter (1996) of digital. Of course my digital equipment progressed to full format Nikon.
Unfortunately, I can no longer properly hold a Nikon, and probably a Canon, due to severe arthritis. Yes, I could use a tripod for some photo opportunities. However, I have evolved to be a darn good I photographer.
I use the latest Apple iPhone. I don’t have the phone connection! There are several apps that I use I shootouts mostly RAW. Files are large. There are limits such as an inability to shoot flying birds, but I never did with my Nikon.
I have been able to make prints as large as 44 inch panoramas on canvas and they sell well.
Young people prefer their phones because they mostly shoot to electronically to their friends. Rarely, do they and several photographers print their images. There are many youngsters who are using the smart phone like this 73 year old geezer!
To the original poster, I would suggest you consider which smart phone has the best photo apps. My review was indicated that Apple (iPhone) clearly decisively had more apps,
Unfortunately, I can no longer properly hold a Nikon, and probably a Canon, due to severe arthritis. Yes, I could use a tripod for some photo opportunities. However, I have evolved to be a darn good I photographer.
I use the latest Apple iPhone. I don’t have the phone connection! There are several apps that I use I shootouts mostly RAW. Files are large. There are limits such as an inability to shoot flying birds, but I never did with my Nikon.
I have been able to make prints as large as 44 inch panoramas on canvas and they sell well.
Young people prefer their phones because they mostly shoot to electronically to their friends. Rarely, do they and several photographers print their images. There are many youngsters who are using the smart phone like this 73 year old geezer!
To the original poster, I would suggest you consider which smart phone has the best photo apps. My review was indicated that Apple (iPhone) clearly decisively had more apps,
Jun 21, 2019 13:41:20 #
Jun 21, 2019 13:41:34 #
Mombie
Loc: Ohio
no12mo wrote:
Absolutely marvelous pictures. Is that really a hedghog in your lap? That is so mega-cute He should be our mascot!!
Would have loved to see them in full resolution. Nonetheless, wonderful pics.
He should be our mascot!!Would have loved to see them in full resolution. Nonetheless, wonderful pics.
It is! Quilly Wonka, she’s about 4 months old
Jun 21, 2019 13:56:44 #
Just checked, it was the 2014 contest sponsored by the AAA "Westways" magazine.
Each year they put up a summary list of how the winners were taken by camera type. There are always a few camera phones on the list.
You do have to be a California resident and Auto Club of Southern California member to enter - only one image per family and a long list of rules.
They usually get 2-5 thousand entries and publish the winners in the Oct issue of the magazine.
This year's contest closed to entries June 3.
I checked and during the last "clean out" my copies of the contest winner issues got recycled and I got a wild hair and checked eBay - a seller in San Bernardino had the 2014 and 2017 Oct issues with the pictures listed for $3.79 each mailed free. (says "for charity" so it is probably a thrift store) I gave in and bought them. In future I will make sure my copies of the Oct magazine goes on the shelf with my photo books.
I did a post about this back in 2014 and no one could access the link to the magazine and pictures. I checked, to get to the site you do have to be a member of So Cal Automobile Club since it goes through their homepage.
I think I will attempt to contact the contest people and see if posting the winners, or a link to them, on UHH and/or other photo sites can be arranged.
A little more research, seems different AAA branches and magazines around the country also have their own contests.
Each year they put up a summary list of how the winners were taken by camera type. There are always a few camera phones on the list.
You do have to be a California resident and Auto Club of Southern California member to enter - only one image per family and a long list of rules.
They usually get 2-5 thousand entries and publish the winners in the Oct issue of the magazine.
This year's contest closed to entries June 3.
I checked and during the last "clean out" my copies of the contest winner issues got recycled and I got a wild hair and checked eBay - a seller in San Bernardino had the 2014 and 2017 Oct issues with the pictures listed for $3.79 each mailed free. (says "for charity" so it is probably a thrift store) I gave in and bought them. In future I will make sure my copies of the Oct magazine goes on the shelf with my photo books.
I did a post about this back in 2014 and no one could access the link to the magazine and pictures. I checked, to get to the site you do have to be a member of So Cal Automobile Club since it goes through their homepage.
I think I will attempt to contact the contest people and see if posting the winners, or a link to them, on UHH and/or other photo sites can be arranged.
A little more research, seems different AAA branches and magazines around the country also have their own contests.
Jun 21, 2019 14:04:04 #
rayman1947 wrote:
IPhone Xmas. Taken in a Walmart parking
lot in Portrait Mode. Slight PP with Snapseed.
lot in Portrait Mode. Slight PP with Snapseed.
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