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Jun 2, 2019 10:11:56   #
Nikon1201
 
The computer shop Thai deal with sold me ( 1 year warranty) 17 inch Dell laptop 256 solid state ram with 1 terabyte hard drive with ( OpenGL 4.4 , VERY IMPORTANT )all rebuilt .If you have a shop you deal with and know ask them what they have . You can save a lot of money.

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Jun 2, 2019 10:35:59   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
I’ve been running a Mac for at least 75 years, since ‘Men were men and women were women’.

Wait,,,let me ask my wife if I can say that.

Realistically, I use both and find that each have their own pros and cons. Whatever it takes to get the job done.

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Jun 2, 2019 10:47:34   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I see they have a model called the "Deluge." I wonder if that has water cooling.
I was kidding, but it does have liquid cooling.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/desktop.php


Jerry, I went to the Puget website, I looked at the Deluge, no water cooling. I configured one like I would buy, $8900.00, I don't think so. I built mine, even though it is last year's, but basically the same specs for way about $2000.00. Nary a problem with it, either.

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Jun 2, 2019 10:48:16   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Southernclimber87 wrote:
Good day everyone, my previous computer has finally taken to not wanting to do its job. Any recommendations on required hardware or complete systems to look at? Im not a mac guy so PC info please.


Got a Costco membership? I do. I just went online and bought a Dell from them. That was about 2 years ago. Look for one with an Intel i7 processor, SSD hard drive, minimum of 16GB RAM, 4GB video RAM, and anything else you need like a BlueRay DVD etc. Get one with a large (spinning) hard drive as well. Mine came with a 256GB SSD and a 2TB hard drive, 24GB RAM, 4GB video, Blue Ray, a bunch of USB3.0 and one USB 3.1C port. I've already upgraded the hard drive to a 1TB SSD, and the hard drive to an 8TB drive.

Oh, the reason I went with Costco is that they double the warranty on computers and they usually have pretty good prices on stuff. When I bought my computer it was $200 the normal price. A week later the price actually did go up so I knew that I did save on the deal.

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Jun 2, 2019 10:55:57   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I see they have a model called the "Deluge." I wonder if that has water cooling.
I was kidding, but it does have liquid cooling.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/desktop.php


Stop tempting me!

I’m a Mac person, very happy with it because my needs are pretty average. But I am conscious that if I want to take my Nikon D750 to the next level of post-shot editing my Mac will let me down. Then again do I really want a separate PC just for photographic use. I’m finding that my photos are slowly getter better.

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Jun 2, 2019 10:59:02   #
Peteso Loc: Blacks Hills
 
First I will answer your question with what I did and why, then address the PC v. Mac issue. I recently upgraded my desktop system to a Dell XPS laptop, which is available with an optional, onboard 4k laptop monitor and a docking station. This gives me two options. The first option is to process my pictures locally (i.e., on my laptop) with my 4k laptop monitor. The XPS laptop also comes with a monitor app called Premier Color that supports the X-Rite iDisplay Pro device. The second option is made possible by the docking station, which supports dual 4k monitors. I can also use my laptop monitor as a third monitor, but I seldom use that feature. Since the introduction of micro-computers, I have used a myriad of laptops, and Dell's support has been consistently good to excellent. In today's world, I suggest you buy the US-based support plan.

As to the PC v. Mac debate, more fundamentally, in my humble opinion, we're talking about the difference between computers (i.e., PCs) versus consumer devices (i.e., Macs). For those who would disagree, there's a reason Apple tried to succeed in the larger, more demanding business market for over 20 years. In fact, Apple almost went bankrupt trying. Apple's financial success was the results of their consumer devices, including iPod, iPad, iPhones, etc., not their computers.

Hope this helps...

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Jun 2, 2019 11:47:58   #
CaliforniaDreamer
 
I build my own PC's and wont go into the cost. One thing I did that I really am glad I did was get a monitor and video card that can display 98% of the sRGB color space. This was a few years ago and there may be combinations that can display 100% now.

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Jun 2, 2019 11:56:53   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I used Apple around 1978 (before Windows existed). I switched to Windows when the Mac came out because Apple was all proprietary and PCs were open source. There were lots of third party suppliers for Windows and the Mac didn't have any of the hardware I needed.

Still using Win10 (without any major problems) although I did switch from Android to iPhone last year.


That is another reason to go the other way. And I agree. My "factory installed Win 10" Dell XPS9800 runs fine! And Yes, I've swapped parts in my previous PCs as well. The Samsung Note9 is cool and the Note10 (August?) sounds awesome. Can 64 year-olds say "awesome"?

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Jun 2, 2019 12:08:27   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
Rich1939 wrote:
Bob, the closest anyone should get to a mac is the one you get with fries and a soft drink.


Mega dittos

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Jun 2, 2019 12:24:31   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
National radio show "The Tech Guy", who has been a fan of Mac stuff, is now saying that, judging from Apple's focuses and lack thereof, he expects Apple to dump Mac computers and Mac OS (OSX) entirely within a few years. They are just too small a part of Apple's income to keep developing and updating. He also thinks iPods are on the way out. Phones have all of Apple's interest anymore.
This is besides his coming around to the fact that Apple hardware is just plain too damned expensive (which could explain why their market share in computers is so small).

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Jun 2, 2019 12:27:43   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
lamiaceae wrote:
... Can 64 year-olds say "awesome"?


Of course, as long as 80 year olds can also.

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Jun 2, 2019 12:36:13   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
nadelewitz wrote:
National radio show "The Tech Guy", who has been a fan of Mac stuff, is now saying that, judging from Apple's focuses and lack thereof, he expects Apple to dump Mac computers and Mac OS (OSX) entirely within a few years. They are just too small a part of Apple's income to keep developing and updating. He also thinks iPods are on the way out. Phones have all of Apple's interest anymore.
This is besides his coming around to the fact that Apple hardware is just plain too damned expensive.
National radio show "The Tech Guy", who ... (show quote)


History has shown that open systems win over closed systems every time. Sun, Dec, DG, Intergraph, etc. have already learned that lesson the hard way, and eventually, Apple will learn it also.

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Jun 2, 2019 13:38:54   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
rmalarz wrote:
PCs are OK, but you should really consider getting a mac. I've been using a 27" iMac for the last 5 or so years. Never a problem.
--Bob
*



*Just wanted to make Gene look like he knows this group.


And he does!

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Jun 2, 2019 13:53:14   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
Earnest Botello wrote:
Jerry, I went to the Puget website, I looked at the Deluge, no water cooling. I configured one like I would buy, $8900.00, I don't think so. I built mine, even though it is last year's, but basically the same specs for way about $2000.00. Nary a problem with it, either.


How close is basically? $8,900.00 down to about $2,000.00 seems like a very large spread or one hell of a mark up by Puget.

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Jun 2, 2019 14:01:13   #
Polock
 
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-ryzen-3000-cpu-everything-you-need-to-know/
might want to hold off for awhile

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