Adobe changes
May 29, 2019 13:15:18 #
Gene51 wrote:
Distasteful to the very same people who rent inter... (show quote)
Exactly. The subscription model is growing rapidly because shareholders love it. No lagging sales awaiting the next big release, just slow growth (or decline) in subscriptions based on how well the product compares to its rivals.
Virtually all business software will be using this model in the future - it just makes too much sense for both the users and developers.
May 29, 2019 13:57:30 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
AndyH wrote:
Exactly. The subscription model is growing rapidly because shareholders love it. No lagging sales awaiting the next big release, just slow growth (or decline) in subscriptions based on how well the product compares to its rivals.
Virtually all business software will be using this model in the future - it just makes too much sense for both the users and developers.
Virtually all business software will be using this model in the future - it just makes too much sense for both the users and developers.
My Microsoft Office is by subscription. It cost $100 per year for a license for 6 machines. My wife, son and I all use it for business. Between the three of us we have 3 desktops and 3 laptops. It ends up costing me $16.67 a year per machine to have the most updated version of Office. A bargain compared to MS Office 2007 which cost $450 and could be used on only 2 machines. The same for Microsoft Office 2013 which cost around $399. Additionally Quicken is now only available as a subscription.
May 29, 2019 14:11:34 #
RichLacey
Loc: Atlanta
I have deleted my subscription to jchristina. The totality of the circumstances indicates that this is the right move. Thanks, hoggers!
May 29, 2019 14:15:17 #
mwsilvers wrote:
My Microsoft Office is by subscription. It cost $100 per year for a license for 6 machines. My wife, son and I all use it for business. Between the three of us we have 3 desktops and 3 laptops. It ends up costing me $16.67 a year per machine to have the most updated version of Office. A bargain compared to MS Office 2007 which cost $450 and could be used on only 2 machines. The same for Microsoft Office 2013 which cost around $399. Additionally Quicken is now only available as a subscription.
Our company has also switched to subscription models for Office, Quickbooks, AutoCAD, ArcGIS, and Housing Developer Pro. There were no standalone versions for anything but Office, and with only eight workstations, it’s a real bargain. We only need 2-3 licenses for the other products, so it’s even more affordable.
In the business world it’s the new normal.
Andy
May 29, 2019 14:21:17 #
You can get jchristina quality news, analysis and rumor everyday for free on UHH ....
May 29, 2019 14:33:30 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
You can read anything on the internet, including inaccurate to completely wrong information ...
The absence of info from Adobe is an indicator. Using the search function on UHH might be another way to find discussion. Given what you describe, you'd think there would to 10 new items a day, everyday for weeks on end, on UHH about these ideas ...
The absence of info from Adobe is an indicator. Using the search function on UHH might be another way to find discussion. Given what you describe, you'd think there would to 10 new items a day, everyday for weeks on end, on UHH about these ideas ...
May 29, 2019 16:37:57 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Adobe sent me an email about that because they're concerned about the confusion. I wouldn't say it's fake news as much as misinterpretation of Adobe's announcement. They are still offering the $9.95 plan, but they are also offering something for $19.95, and they would naturally prefer that people buy into that plan.
The $19.95 plan is not new. It has been offered for a long time.
May 29, 2019 16:58:02 #
hogilbert wrote:
… Adobe is making major changes in it's Creative Cloud offering. Namely a doubling of the subscription price to $21 for an individual. Also they will no longer support standalone versions beyond the last two for LR and PS. … It seems to me that if you buy software (not a subscription) then you are the owner. I would be interested to hear what others know about this rumor. I can find nothing on Adobe's website to support this.
I don't know if this applies to your question, but here is an emailed ad I received this morning.
The price is right: 40% off.
But not for long.
Get everything you need to start creating with the Adobe Creative Cloud All Apps plan — just US$29.99/month. Catch this deal while it lasts.
Offer ends May 31.
Save now
May 29, 2019 18:15:46 #
According to " The Lightroom Queen" it is not true. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/lightroom-photography-plan-split-testing/
May 29, 2019 22:21:06 #
DaveyDitzer
Loc: Western PA
make sure you are reading about the correct Adobe systems. Joe talks about his Pro system and cloud based file management and that may be different from purchased copies of PS, which I have. I have no intention of deleting these. But Joe's system requirements are much more demanding and varied.
May 29, 2019 22:34:47 #
Bob Locher
Loc: Southwest Oregon
The Adobe fanboys certainly were hiding in the woodwork until Adobe realized it had a PR disaster on its hands and started backing and filling. They tried for a major price increase and did not get away with it.
If you read about the Dolby suit you will see that Adobe is clearly hiding something. Now in erasing older software from their site and telling users to cease and desist they are essentially saying that Dolby is correct. But I just about guarantee Adobe will settle instead of getting hauled into court and going through discovery.
Yet, now all of a sudden for their fanboys all is forgiven. Amazing. Tribal loyalty is even stronger to Adobe than to any of the camera companies.
You might note that Adobe is calling in a lot of markers. Suddenly a number of photo news sites are running stories praising Adobe for some trivial update or whatever to put the company in a positive light.
Adobe in my book is one of the most arrogant companies in business. They have incredible sums of money coming in from the photographic community for which they - as far as others report - have terrible product support, and certainly little further innovation. In return they offer death by a thousand cuts.
Joe Christina is well connected and checks his facts. As far as I am concerned he is dead on. Good for Joe and good for us.
If you read about the Dolby suit you will see that Adobe is clearly hiding something. Now in erasing older software from their site and telling users to cease and desist they are essentially saying that Dolby is correct. But I just about guarantee Adobe will settle instead of getting hauled into court and going through discovery.
Yet, now all of a sudden for their fanboys all is forgiven. Amazing. Tribal loyalty is even stronger to Adobe than to any of the camera companies.
You might note that Adobe is calling in a lot of markers. Suddenly a number of photo news sites are running stories praising Adobe for some trivial update or whatever to put the company in a positive light.
Adobe in my book is one of the most arrogant companies in business. They have incredible sums of money coming in from the photographic community for which they - as far as others report - have terrible product support, and certainly little further innovation. In return they offer death by a thousand cuts.
Joe Christina is well connected and checks his facts. As far as I am concerned he is dead on. Good for Joe and good for us.
May 29, 2019 23:05:35 #
xt2
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
Bill_de wrote:
True, but you can own a perpetual license. On1 puts it this way:
When you purchase ON1 Photo RAW 2019.5 you receive a perpetual license
Never rent your software again
You own it forever
https://www.on1.com/products/photo-raw/buy/?t=1
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When you purchase ON1 Photo RAW 2019.5 you receive a perpetual license
Never rent your software again
You own it forever
https://www.on1.com/products/photo-raw/buy/?t=1
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The license.
May 30, 2019 01:41:42 #
Bob Locher wrote:
.... Joe Christina is well connected and checks his facts. As far as I am concerned he is dead on. Good for Joe and good for us.
Bob, I have to go with you on this one. I have not only followed Joseph Christina, but also communicated with him personally via email. He is the real deal. Real nice guy.
As for Adobe, I do not know why so many Hoggers are calling it fake news.
I discovered that it is true (in part at least) by going to Adobe website and trying to get support and updates for my software. They cleaned off their website for the older products. I also got the notice about the software infringement violation and warning.
I have LR 6 Supported, Adobe Acrobat Pro (not supported), Adobe PSE 7 (not supported). When I go to the support page it states "404 Page Not Found" for those products that are not supported.
That is about as real as it gets.
May 30, 2019 04:54:28 #
RichinSeattle wrote:
I don't know if this applies to your question, but here is an emailed ad I received this morning.
The price is right: 40% off.
But not for long.
Get everything you need to start creating with the Adobe Creative Cloud All Apps plan — just US$29.99/month. Catch this deal while it lasts.
Offer ends May 31.
Save now
The price is right: 40% off.
But not for long.
Get everything you need to start creating with the Adobe Creative Cloud All Apps plan — just US$29.99/month. Catch this deal while it lasts.
Offer ends May 31.
Save now
.................."All Apps plan"......................?
May 30, 2019 08:53:53 #
Tomcat5133
Loc: Gladwyne PA
I don't believe Adobe would make us delete photo's.
Rumors don't mean anything.
What I and my fellow image and graphic creators see happening
you have older images and you can't open them if you decide to leave Adobe.
Or will my CC open in a older version of PS. They won't so we are a captured
customer. I recently posted that I was able to get the Suite for $29 a month
instead of $56. I cancelled the Suite and went back for just PS. The PS deal
was missing the a link but then wouldnt work. So they most have seen
in their analytics that I had cancelled so asked online help and suddenly
an offer of the Adobe Suite $29 piped up in the talk box. I took it.
This is a game. It is only going to get worse. I spent thousands of
dollars on their programs for years.
Rumors don't mean anything.
What I and my fellow image and graphic creators see happening
you have older images and you can't open them if you decide to leave Adobe.
Or will my CC open in a older version of PS. They won't so we are a captured
customer. I recently posted that I was able to get the Suite for $29 a month
instead of $56. I cancelled the Suite and went back for just PS. The PS deal
was missing the a link but then wouldnt work. So they most have seen
in their analytics that I had cancelled so asked online help and suddenly
an offer of the Adobe Suite $29 piped up in the talk box. I took it.
This is a game. It is only going to get worse. I spent thousands of
dollars on their programs for years.
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