What demographics? (Page 6): That is part of the definition.

markwilliam1

That is part of the definition.

BebuLamar wrote:

I guess that is what he meant by "demographics".

Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC

BebuLamar wrote:

I guess [age] is what he meant by "demographics".

Not only age, but income, gender, sex, location, education, race, religion, ethnicity, marital status, registered party, and other factors make up demographics. My reply was just limited to income, but I would imagine age correlates with not only with income but brand loyalty and lens collections. Interesting question, by the way.

pdsilen Loc: Roswell, New Mexico

markwilliam1 wrote:

What demographics would purchase a new DSLR verses a new Mirrorless camera? I believe the DSLR is dying!

I'm sure that mirror less has features that are beyond state of the art. But speaking for myself, before I even consider buying mirror-less equipment I will wait a few years for the price to drop. Like any new gadget that hits the market you're paying for R&D and promotion. Secondly I have invested hundreds of dollars in equipment and I'm not about to invest any more.

markwilliam1

Remember I’m talking about a New camera system for someone without any camera equipment not if you should upgrade or change a current system that you already own.

pdsilen wrote:

I'm sure that mirror less has features that are beyond state of the art. But speaking for myself, before I even consider buying mirror-less equipment I will wait a few years for the price to drop. Like any new gadget that hits the market you're paying for R&D and promotion. Secondly I have invested hundreds of dollars in equipment and I'm not about to invest any more.

hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico

markwilliam1 wrote:

What demographics would purchase a new DSLR verses a new Mirrorless camera? I believe the DSLR is dying!

The film camera isn't dead yet... maybe close, but not yet. And Mirrorless has been around for awhile.

hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico

markwilliam1 wrote:

What demographics would purchase a new DSLR verses a new Mirrorless camera? I believe the DSLR is dying!

I have a mirrorless(a6000), and am saving to get a Nikon D7100.

sailwiz Loc: Santee, CA

markwilliam1 wrote:

Age has to do with the discussion.

Well, I'm almost 75 and I'm seldom without a camera in my possession. Bridge camera that is. Welcome to the future for some of you.

unduki

1963mca wrote:

Many like me who have been using DSLR for 60+ years and have a huge investment in DSLR gear. No desire to change. They also said the horseless carriage/auto would replace the horse, but my wife and I still have horses and ride them. Sure we have cars, but the horses have more personality! So do the DSLRs.

I have friends who say the exact same thing about their 35 mm film cameras.

I say do what you like.

dick ranez

Biggest single factor in new "system" purchases remains price. As long as Canon and Nikon sell a multi-lens kit with a DLSR for under $500, they will continue to capture a fair share of "new users". Entry level mirrorless systems - read panasonic, olympus, fuji - still range above the $500 threshold. Older, or as I prefer, "more experienced" users usually have an investment in legacy lenses that is not easily disgarded.
The lens adapters work, but many purists will only use native lenses - and by the way, new mirrorless lenses tend to be more expensive than the traditional counterpart. Another factor to consider is that both Canon and Nikon are tip-toeing into the mirrorless market late with incomplete offerings. While this will be remedied over time, it is not now. Simplified manufacturing may reduce camera prices but the lenses are much more difficult to "cut corners" without sacrificing performance. To net it out, someday but not soon.

DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA

markwilliam1 wrote:

Really why?

readily available, quality and inexpensive glass. I note that DSLR and early glass is much faster than new mirror-less glass.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

DaveyDitzer wrote:

readily available, quality and inexpensive glass. I note that DSLR and early glass is much faster than new mirror-less glass.

DD - not sure about the basis of your observation. For the introduction of Canon's EF line covering 1987 - 1989, I count 12 lenses with apertures f/2.8 or faster. It would seem for the mirrorless full-frame mount, they're creating fast glass faster with the list below since the late 2018 body release:

RF 15-30mm f/2.8L IS USM
RF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS USM
RF 28-70mm f/2L USM
RF 35mm f/1.8 IS STM Macro
RF 50mm f/1.2 L
RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM
RF 85mm f/1.2L USM

(OK, you did include inexpensive, not a characteristic of anything above, but neither is typically "fast" and "inexpensive" ...

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GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan

dick ranez wrote:

Biggest single factor in new "system" pu... (show quote)

I'm a Pentax user. When the Pentax K1 full frame first came out, just about everything I heard from the "professional YouTubers" was that Pentax came out with a camera that didn't have lenses to go with it. (False by the way.) Many followers started an anti-Pentax rumor again.

Now that Canon and Nikon came out with mirrorless, it seems the "Pro Youtubers" don't want to upset their income. I haven't heard anything about the lack of those mfg's not having lenses only that an adapter can be used to fit older lenses.

Why do they (or somebody) make up false stories about Pentax so often? Could it be to camouflage their own problems?

foggypreacher Loc: Dickinson, Texas

markwilliam1 wrote:

What demographics would purchase a new DSLR verses a new Mirrorless camera? I believe the DSLR is dying!

Having only started with DSLR's about 18 months ago and my economic situation does not allow for me to spend $2000 + for the latest and greatest. Besides, many of us who are new would like to learn on the cheaper goods so that if and when we can afford the better bodies and glass, we'll know what to do with them.

I don't think the DSLR is on the way out. Just as others like film, there will always be those of us liking the DSLR.

LMurray Loc: North Orange County, CA

markwilliam1 wrote:

What demographics would purchase a new DSLR verses a new Mirrorless camera? I believe the DSLR is dying!

I can't help but wonder what the hidden agenda is that prompts a question like this or the statement that DSLR is dying. I'm 71 FWIW.
As I said in an earlier post I have absolutely NO interest in mirrorless and if my 800 dies, it probably won't, I'd give serious thought to using my F4 full time or the F100 ratherthan getting the overpriced d850 or sucessor, but again never meaning never a mirrorless POC.

markwilliam1

There’s No hidden agenda here Sir! Just a question and an opinion that’s all.

LMurray wrote:

I can't help but wonder what the hidden agenda is that prompts a question like this or the statement that DSLR is dying. I'm 71 FWIW.
As I said in an earlier post I have absolutely NO interest in mirrorless and if my 800 dies, it probably won't, I'd give serious thought to using my F4 full time or the F100 ratherthan getting the overpriced d850 or sucessor, but again never meaning never a mirrorless POC.