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Apr 21, 2019 21:48:30   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Doesn't seem to matter in Texas....

https://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5278638&page=1




Dennis

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Apr 21, 2019 21:55:53   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Boohoo


I know, your sad because all you eat is crow now.
I feel pity for you comrade.
Lost...
Irresponsible...
Insignificant...
Eating crow bones might help you in this dark time.
Hahahaha.... I don’t care.

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Apr 21, 2019 21:57:33   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
This law has no bearing on the current scenario. I find that you using an 11 year old article from the “fake media” to be more than a little hypocritical.

Here is a current explanation of the actual law:

Inside your “castle,” under certain circumstances, Texas law presumes you acted reasonably and justifiably if you use force or deadly force to defend yourself against an intruder who enters your occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment. What are the circumstances that will give you this important legal presumption? The first is where an individual unlawfully and with force, enters or attempts to enter your occupied habitation, vehicle or place of business or employment. The second situation is if an individual unlawfully and with force, removes or attempts to remove you from your occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment.

The only force involved was from the armed fake police. You seem to always miss the part of a law that makes your point invalid. No wonder your like AG Barr.
This law has no bearing on the current scenario. I... (show quote)


I understand the castle law, apparently in Texas there are exceptions to that law, this guy was told several times by police dispatch to not go outside and to not shot the burglars, he did it anyway and the grand jury let him off. You can google his name from the article and listen to the 9 minute 911 call for yourself, the law is not applicable if the Grand Jury says it is not is what I got out of it. Have you ever heard of jury nullification?

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Apr 21, 2019 21:57:55   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
phcaan wrote:
Well that is one of the more colorful pieces of propaganda I have seen this week. The people who use and abuse children are the people using them to enter our country illegally and the organizations fleecing these folks to smuggle them over the border. Most of the abuse occurrences happen on the journey to the border not at the border. As far as separating families, how many families do you see in US prisons? The people who commit crimes are sent to prison, not their families, which is why they are separated.
The responsibility lies with the people who knowingly bring their children into lawless situations, that is child abuse.
It is interesting that you pick and choose which laws are free for you to break and which laws you would impose on anyone you disagree with.
I am willing to bet that all your concern for children does not extend to unborn or newborn children.
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So you cannot answer why more than 2000 children were lost by Trumpettes.

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Apr 21, 2019 21:59:33   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I didn't hear of anything like that happening. Did you? If these men are holding illegal aliens for the purpose of handing them over to border patrol then it would seem they are doing none of the above. So, as usual, you made that up. If they had done that then they would have been arrested, wouldn't they?

Don't you just love this game. Let's call it, Common Sense.

Dennis


Yes - there was an investigation of the "possibility" of these crimes being committed - so far they have not. In short these fellows have been armed but have not pointed or threatened bodily harm - it has been enough that they were caught by armed men - It is too bad that the situation is so bad that some folks seem to play "National Guard"

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Apr 21, 2019 21:59:43   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So you cannot answer why more than 2000 children were lost by Trumpettes.


Democrats bought them.
How many did you get comrade?

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Apr 21, 2019 22:28:15   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I understand the castle law, apparently in Texas there are exceptions to that law, this guy was told several times by police dispatch to not go outside and to not shot the burglars, he did it anyway and the grand jury let him off. You can google his name from the article and listen to the 9 minute 911 call for yourself, the law is not applicable if the Grand Jury says it is not is what I got out of it. Have you ever heard of jury nullification?


One thing to remember when discussing police dispatchers. Remember that I love police dispatchers. I would much rather be a deputy on patrol than a dispatcher because their work is incredibly stressful and whatever happens there are times when they hear violence and despair over the phone and can't do a darn thing about it. I have done it occasionally and once talked a man out of killing his wife and then into letting her go free. He then walked out unarmed to deputies I had on the radio. That one worked out well. Another time dispatchers had to hear the crying of two women who were burned over 80% of their body. They couldn't just shut it off but had to sit through it even though they were not there to actually help. My heart goes out to police and fire dispatchers more than you can imagine.

But on to the thread, the dispatcher talking to the man in Texas with the shotgun was not there to actually witness what he was seeing. She is paid to try to sort of be protective but with absolutely no power at all to do anything but suggest what to do based on what she THINKS is happening. The man with the shotgun was the one actually making the decision based on what he KNEW was happening.

Dennis

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Apr 22, 2019 07:30:31   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
But not nearly as repulsive as the god damn congress not doing their jobs!



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Apr 22, 2019 07:32:16   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
yhtomit wrote:
Felon in possession of ammo and guns.
So?


Felons cannot legally possess ammo or guns.

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Apr 22, 2019 07:33:12   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
dennis2146 wrote:
With respect I think you mean HUEVOS rather than juevos.

As for the rest of it I agree that we need comprehensive immigration reform. But the problem is not President Trump who is only trying to have the present laws enforced, while Liberal Democrats ignore such laws, but Congress who has sat on their ass for well over, what, 40 years or more kicking this and other cans down the street.

We do need to get back to having the work permit system AND penalties for employers who hire illegal aliens outside of this system. None of this seems that hard to do as it has been done before. I would bet these exact laws are still on the books and can be enforced. But the problem is the Liberal Democrats who whine and bitch every time an illegal alien is picked up.

Dennis
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Apr 22, 2019 07:34:00   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
soba1 wrote:
People have a right to protect their property, if the govt won’t protect from foreign invaders then the citizens have a right to



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Apr 22, 2019 07:49:03   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
wooden_ships wrote:
Oh, that’s okay then. An illegally armed felon illegally detaining others (kidnapping) who supports trump gets a pass.

Wow


Like Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dorn. Except HE hasn't killed a cop yet.

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Apr 22, 2019 07:53:34   #
WNC Ralf Loc: Candler NC, in the mountains!
 
yhtomit wrote:
These citizens are defending their neighborhood.
Wake up comrade.


Their leader lives hundreds of miles from the border and is a convicted felon in possession of an illegal weapon, fine examples. Obviously republicans!

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Apr 22, 2019 08:10:43   #
wooden_ships
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Did nobody hand you your sign today? You know the one that said, S----d? If he was illegally detaining others then he would have been charged with that or at least arrested for that charge. I didn't see that anybody was arrested for detaining others. But if these, "others", are illegal aliens then I believe these men have the lawful right to detain them for law enforcement to deal with them. Perhaps you need to read up on the law and the rights of the law abiding.

Soba is correct in that citizens do have the right to make a citizens arrest.

Dennis
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Define the conditions required to make a citizen’s arrest and how this felon was within his legal rights to do so.

It amazes me that trump supporters are so willing to give law breakers a pass as long as they promote trump.

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Apr 22, 2019 08:19:33   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Or this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4dcvIYk9A

https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2011/03/eric-holder-black-panther-case-focus-demeans-my-people-033839

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