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Armed Vigilantes on the US/Mexican Border is Repulsive!
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Apr 24, 2019 08:06:00   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Bazbo wrote:
For someone who claims to be a former LEO, you are remarkably ignorant of the Constitutional requirements for a lawful citizen's arrest. This may help:

https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/citizen-s-arrest.html

And you are welcome. There is no reason that you could not look that up yourself before posting ignorant gibberish.

The problem with your blanket excuse for the vigilantes is that it it is not clear, nor would it be to at the point of the "arrest" that a felony has been committed. Entering he country seeking asylum is not a crime. It is very doubtful that the m*****a boy wannabes with their store-bought cammo and big bad guns have either the training or temperament to make the call like that. Further, considering the fact that this extra-judicial activity is not supported by the actual authorities that they can claim to be acting on their behalf. I sure would like to hear one of these ignormamuses explain probable cause.

The m*****a boy would be within their rights to monitor and then call the actual authorities. But thats not what they are doing. I hope one of them gets their ass sued to oblivion.
For someone who claims to be a former LEO, you are... (show quote)


Baz, you either took too many drugs or had too much to drink. I have never claimed to be an LEO. By the way, these guys call the border patrol when they do a citizens arrest and the border patrol is appreciative of their help.
How the hell do you know what kind of training or temperament these guys have? YOU DON'T . Stop making crap up.

You bonehead it is a crime when you enter this country NOT using a point of entry and claiming asylum, which these people are NOT USING A PORT OF ENTRY.

You are just way too full of your self and way too ignorant.

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Apr 24, 2019 10:07:47   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Hopefully you are not currently in law enforcement. Your ideas are so full of holes that is not worth listing. Besides I am tired of doing your research. One example, the average citizen has NO RIGHT to stop someone because they look Mexican and demand identification. Law Enforcement in modern times has been taught not to profile. It appears that you want to give these i***ts more rights than police. How far are you going to take this law of yours, is it fine in Champaign, Illinois or Pueblo, Colorado. Just go outside of Home Depot and stop anyone who looks Mexican? Or is this a selective law that only applies to dark skinned people within ten miles of the border.
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Perhaps then you can tell me exactly why the law enforcement didn't stop the armed group from doing exactly what they are doing. What research have you done for me? Please don't do any more because usually the horse s**t crap you come with isn't with the cyberspace it takes on my screen. You just moan and groan about Trump not being indicted/impeached and tell us how wonderful the Democrats are GOING to be after 2020. You are just one more full of s**t Liberal who hasn't a clue what is going on. You are a pitiful snowflake who needs his mama to wipe his nose and his ass, usually with the same piece of tissue.

You can tell me I don't know what I am doing in the way of law enforcement but I am the one who has been there, done exactly that. What have you done? What arrests have you made? How many convicted felons have you actually dealt with on a daily basis? Come on little big boy t*****r, fill us in on your actual experience.

You have nothing and know nothing. If you did you would recognize that people just coming across the border ILLEGALLY have a certain look, a walk, an image of, I am here and I need to be careful nobody spots me. I have seen that look over 100 times, have arrested that person and every single time I was correct. Now let's put that experience up against your experience. I will wait right here t*****r boy. You can insult me, tell me I don't know what I am talking about and so on but you will never be to equal my experience.

You are a waste of my time. Write to Frank and Bazbo instead. They will agree with your stupid ideas.

Dennis

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Apr 24, 2019 10:15:16   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
skylane5sp wrote:
If the 'average citizen' is positioned in sight of the border not at a Port of Entry and sees someone running toward them from that border I think they have every right to stop them regardless of how "they look".

And to Bazo, I would think one truly seeking asylum would walk right up to an entry point and declare so loudly. Not sneak across out in the boonies.


There are differences that can be noted between an i*****l a***n who just came across the border and one who has been in America for a few months. Their walk, their dress, their being unsure of where they are going and so on. But when these armed men see a group of those people on the streets you can be sure they know of who they are dealing with.

When I was in my police academy class, back in the early 70's, I was told by some experienced officers that I would learn to look at situations and just, "KNOW", what was going on, kind of a 6th sense. I laughed and scoffed at them, in my mind. But after a couple of years on the street I changed my mind. I am not saying 100% correct but many times an officer can look at someone and know that person is a felon or someone who has done time or is wanted. Actually taking the time to stop and talk to that person will reveal if the officer's thinking was correct or not in probably the first 3 minutes. It isn't a gift really, it is experience in dealing with people and keeping your eyes and ears open.

Is it Bazo or Bozo. I keep forgetting.

Dennis

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Apr 24, 2019 11:29:57   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Perhaps then you can tell me exactly why the law enforcement didn't stop the armed group from doing exactly what they are doing. What research have you done for me? Please don't do any more because usually the horse s**t crap you come with isn't with the cyberspace it takes on my screen. You just moan and groan about Trump not being indicted/impeached and tell us how wonderful the Democrats are GOING to be after 2020. You are just one more full of s**t Liberal who hasn't a clue what is going on. You are a pitiful snowflake who needs his mama to wipe his nose and his ass, usually with the same piece of tissue.

You can tell me I don't know what I am doing in the way of law enforcement but I am the one who has been there, done exactly that. What have you done? What arrests have you made? How many convicted felons have you actually dealt with on a daily basis? Come on little big boy t*****r, fill us in on your actual experience.

You have nothing and know nothing. If you did you would recognize that people just coming across the border ILLEGALLY have a certain look, a walk, an image of, I am here and I need to be careful nobody spots me. I have seen that look over 100 times, have arrested that person and every single time I was correct. Now let's put that experience up against your experience. I will wait right here t*****r boy. You can insult me, tell me I don't know what I am talking about and so on but you will never be to equal my experience.

You are a waste of my time. Write to Frank and Bazbo instead. They will agree with your stupid ideas.

Dennis
Perhaps then you can tell me exactly why the law e... (show quote)


Luckily there are now laws to protect people from the in an instant vision that was used by you.
It still is amazing that you have the opinion that only law enforcement can give opinions because they have done it and know best
Kinda like women saying if you cannot get
Pregnant or have never been pregnant, you have no valid opinion on a******n.

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