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Apr 18, 2019 09:52:28   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
The D600 is a great camera, 8000 clicks and I have not had any oil problems with mine, I love it

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Apr 18, 2019 10:07:40   #
Chris981 Loc: Pacific Palisades
 
I have a D610 and still use it. I also have D850. Th main weakness of the D610 is low light AF. D610 is still an excellent camera.

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Apr 18, 2019 10:15:55   #
nikondoug
 
The D600 is a good camera, hope the one you want was sent back to Nikon to replace the sensor. If you want a FX camera, why such an old model? You would be better off getting a D800 or D810 because of their dynamic range, plus you will need to purchase some FX lenses.

Good luck

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Apr 18, 2019 14:01:10   #
siamesecatmanuk Loc: Leicestershire UK
 
Thank you all the above,wow ! There's a lot to think about there,I always thought I was able to make a decision,but this has got me dithering now !

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Apr 18, 2019 14:35:37   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
siamesecatmanuk wrote:
I know I will get oh that shutter problem replies to this but that aside am I mad for considering part exchange of my d7100 to a d600 at a famous online website here in the uk,
Graham


You've given no indication what you shoot or why you think you need an FX camera.

FX is better than DX at some things... But it's worse than DX at others. "Going full frame" never made anyone a better photographer. But it can be the "right choice" for some things... Or the "wrong choice" for others.

#1.... You WILL need FX lenses, which tend to be bigger, heavier and more expensive. Yes, the camera can use DX lenses... but you'll end up with approx. 10MP images that aren't nearly as good as what you get now from your D7100.

#2... Unless you make big prints from your images, you will see little difference in your end results. Yes, images may look sharper on your computer monitor while viewing them "at 100%", which is far larger than you'll ever actually use them. On most modern computer monitors at their native resolution, "100%" is roughly equiv. to viewing a five foot wide print from about 18 or 20" away. Do you plan to make 3.5 x 5 foot prints? By the time you resize the image for "real world" uses, much of the "full frame goodness" will have disappeared.

Yes, there are things FX are good for... such as low light/high ISO shooting. It also can give you more control over depth of field, with both shallower effects (large aperture) and deeper effects (small aperture) than is with a crop camera.

I use both full frame and crop cameras. If I could use only one, had to give up the other, I'd keep my crop cameras and give up the full frame.

Crop cameras have greater overall versatility.... I shoot a lot of sports and some wildlife, where the croppers have an advantage. They also are fine for most portraits and scenic photography.

I originally added a full frame camera mostly for its low light/high ISO capabilities. However, newer crop sensor cameras I've upgraded to in the year since are able to be used at higher ISO than was ever possible with that older full frame camera. I'm sure a newer full frame would be different, but can't really justify the cost of one for as little as I presently need it (probably 95% of my work is done with crop sensor cameras). I prefer the full frame camera for portraits, scenics and some macro work. But I could live without it and "get by" just fine with crop sensor cameras, so that's what I'd choose if I could only have one. I'd never "trade in" my crop cameras for a full frame model, unless what I shoot were to radically change.

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Apr 18, 2019 14:54:32   #
wrangler5 Loc: Missouri
 
I had a D7000 (which came after a D70s and before that a D100) but almost all FX lenses from my Nikon film days, including a 17-35/2.8 which I used a LOT. Rented a D600 from the local store over Christmas a few years ago, and after getting the full width of my wide angle lenses back I just bought the camera (Nikon had already replaced the shutter, and the paperwork was in the package.) I rarely used the D7000 after that. But I'm not sure I would have made the move if I hadn't had the lenses already.

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Apr 18, 2019 20:06:11   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
amfoto1 wrote:
You've given no indication what you shoot or why you think you need an FX camera.

FX is better than DX at some things... But it's worse than DX at others. "Going full frame" never made anyone a better photographer. But it can be the "right choice" for some things... Or the "wrong choice" for others.

#1.... You WILL need FX lenses, which tend to be bigger, heavier and more expensive. Yes, the camera can use DX lenses... but you'll end up with approx. 10MP images that aren't nearly as good as what you get now from your D7100.

#2... Unless you make big prints from your images, you will see little difference in your end results. Yes, images may look sharper on your computer monitor while viewing them "at 100%", which is far larger than you'll ever actually use them. On most modern computer monitors at their native resolution, "100%" is roughly equiv. to viewing a five foot wide print from about 18 or 20" away. Do you plan to make 3.5 x 5 foot prints? By the time you resize the image for "real world" uses, much of the "full frame goodness" will have disappeared.

Yes, there are things FX are good for... such as low light/high ISO shooting. It also can give you more control over depth of field, with both shallower effects (large aperture) and deeper effects (small aperture) than is with a crop camera.

I use both full frame and crop cameras. If I could use only one, had to give up the other, I'd keep my crop cameras and give up the full frame.

Crop cameras have greater overall versatility.... I shoot a lot of sports and some wildlife, where the croppers have an advantage. They also are fine for most portraits and scenic photography.

I originally added a full frame camera mostly for its low light/high ISO capabilities. However, newer crop sensor cameras I've upgraded to in the year since are able to be used at higher ISO than was ever possible with that older full frame camera. I'm sure a newer full frame would be different, but can't really justify the cost of one for as little as I presently need it (probably 95% of my work is done with crop sensor cameras). I prefer the full frame camera for portraits, scenics and some macro work. But I could live without it and "get by" just fine with crop sensor cameras, so that's what I'd choose if I could only have one. I'd never "trade in" my crop cameras for a full frame model, unless what I shoot were to radically change.
You've given no indication what you shoot or why y... (show quote)


I own 3 crop cameras and no full frames. Always planned to purchase a full frame since I have some FX lenses. Recently I have decided to stay with the crops. Happy with their IQ, low light and 1.5 extended reach. Plus I can use all of my lenses on them. Can’t do DX lenses on FX without losing pixels!!

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Apr 18, 2019 22:22:39   #
ICN3S Loc: Cave Junction, OR
 
I have the D600 and it is a great camera. I had the spots but sent it to Nikon and they fixed it quickly and no charge! It may still be under the same deal but you could always check with them before purchasing! Good luck , I know you'll love it!

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Apr 19, 2019 05:30:37   #
siamesecatmanuk Loc: Leicestershire UK
 
amfoto1 wrote:
You've given no indication what you shoot or why you think you need an FX camera.

FX is better than DX at some things... But it's worse than DX at others. "Going full frame" never made anyone a better photographer. But it can be the "right choice" for some things... Or the "wrong choice" for others.

#1.... You WILL need FX lenses, which tend to be bigger, heavier and more expensive. Yes, the camera can use DX lenses... but you'll end up with approx. 10MP images that aren't nearly as good as what you get now from your D7100.

#2... Unless you make big prints from your images, you will see little difference in your end results. Yes, images may look sharper on your computer monitor while viewing them "at 100%", which is far larger than you'll ever actually use them. On most modern computer monitors at their native resolution, "100%" is roughly equiv. to viewing a five foot wide print from about 18 or 20" away. Do you plan to make 3.5 x 5 foot prints? By the time you resize the image for "real world" uses, much of the "full frame goodness" will have disappeared.

Yes, there are things FX are good for... such as low light/high ISO shooting. It also can give you more control over depth of field, with both shallower effects (large aperture) and deeper effects (small aperture) than is with a crop camera.

I use both full frame and crop cameras. If I could use only one, had to give up the other, I'd keep my crop cameras and give up the full frame.

Crop cameras have greater overall versatility.... I shoot a lot of sports and some wildlife, where the croppers have an advantage. They also are fine for most portraits and scenic photography.

I originally added a full frame camera mostly for its low light/high ISO capabilities. However, newer crop sensor cameras I've upgraded to in the year since are able to be used at higher ISO than was ever possible with that older full frame camera. I'm sure a newer full frame would be different, but can't really justify the cost of one for as little as I presently need it (probably 95% of my work is done with crop sensor cameras). I prefer the full frame camera for portraits, scenics and some macro work. But I could live without it and "get by" just fine with crop sensor cameras, so that's what I'd choose if I could only have one. I'd never "trade in" my crop cameras for a full frame model, unless what I shoot were to radically change.
You've given no indication what you shoot or why y... (show quote)


Thank you for your thoughts to my last comment all of them have made me continue to think hard about this,in answer to the above I wanted the extra DOF and improved shutter speed/low ISO advantage FX gives on paper,but I know Dx ISO has been improving since d7100 as to what I shoot,everything, but it was the cat photos in not always the best light ,depending on the venue,mostly they were ending up online on websites,but sometimes printed up to 20x16 and obviously that's where the difference I thought would come from FX,but maybe due to advances in ISO in low light on DX that isnt so any more? Attach a photo taken with my d7100

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