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Apr 9, 2019 05:25:32   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Fergie wrote:
My initial question was if my Nikon D3100 with a Tamron 18-270 would do a good job for a crisp photo at 100 yards. I also need to learn how to understand camera settings.
Thank You!


Well - looking at the second picture (the one with the download) shutter at 1/2000 was fast enough - apperture at f7.1 not three bad - perhaps moved to f11 and up the ISO would have helped. But I think your prob is missing the point of focus? Is yoiur camera set for centre point focussing? if so you did miss it!
Try a few shots on Auto evrything and see what happens - let us know.

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Apr 9, 2019 06:17:47   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Definitely set your camera up for back button focus if it allows. Next set it to auto focus & make sure the lens is set to auto focus also. Check out some You Tube vids from Mark Smith, he shows his settings. You will be supprised at how high the ISO is on some of the pics. If you find yourself shooting in changing light situations, use auto ISO.

Have fun, Tom.

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Apr 9, 2019 07:13:19   #
Pistnbroke Loc: UK
 
This is a pointless exercise ..the camera does not have enough pixels for bird photography ie POI.
the lens is bad at max zoom ie 270mm and you have no fine focus adjust. Closer subjects may work for you ..I test my bird lens on a door number down the street 60 yards away and I can see the cross head on the screw clearly when cropped in if its all tuned in ….try that . If you cannot get a sharp picture on a static object at 60 yards then you got no chance on a bird in flight.

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Apr 9, 2019 07:36:57   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Fergie wrote:
I have a Nikon D3100 with a Tamron 18-270 Lens. I use the VC always but I can't get a sharp photo. I only photograph wildlife. I admit I need a lot of help with camera settings but I'm wondering if I can expect the lens to do a good job at 100 yards. I live along a river so that's about as close as I can get.
Thank You for any help!


It seems your image is both out of focus and there is some considerable movement.

birds in flight are challenging, but not impossible with a D3100. Though not spectacular, the Tamron lens is no slouch either -

It is not possible to shoot active, small and distant subjects with manual focus these days. The viewfinder focusing screens are not good enough.

Leaving VC on when the subject is moving is a mistake. Using 1/2000 shutter speed is a good choice, but you must have either been move the camera a lot (practice panning technique) or VC was "doing it's thing" as you triggered the shutter. Generally speaking, VC is best used on static subjects and at slower shutter speeds where it would not be possible to get good images without it. Also, typically VC ceases to provide any benefit at shutter speeds faster than 1/500.

You can take birds in flight with slower shutter speeds, BTW - as long as you are careful. Bigger, slower flying birds are easier to shoot than smaller more fidgety birds.

I use a combination of back button focus and shutter press focus - depending on the circumstances.

Before attempting birds in flight, I suggest practicing on slower moving, larger subjects. If you can get your hands on a longer lens, that wouldn't hurt, since cropping an image from a D3100 will have an impact on image quality.

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Apr 9, 2019 07:40:45   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
You mention using "VC always". Are you using a tripod for these photos? If so, turn VC off.
--Bob
Fergie wrote:
I have a Nikon D3100 with a Tamron 18-270 Lens. I use the VC always but I can't get a sharp photo. I only photograph wildlife. I admit I need a lot of help with camera settings but I'm wondering if I can expect the lens to do a good job at 100 yards. I live along a river so that's about as close as I can get.
Thank You for any help!

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Apr 9, 2019 07:56:45   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Fergie wrote:
My initial question was if my Nikon D3100 with a Tamron 18-270 would do a good job for a crisp photo at 100 yards. I also need to learn how to understand camera settings.
Thank You!


At 1/2000 and near f/7.1 the only explanation is missed focus. What are you using? Single point?

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Apr 9, 2019 08:15:10   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
Are you on a tripod?

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Apr 9, 2019 08:18:13   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
Fergie wrote:
My initial question was if my Nikon D3100 with a Tamron 18-270 would do a good job for a crisp photo at 100 yards. I also need to learn how to understand camera settings.
Thank You!

Check your camera manual to see where the focus points are located on the sensor. Unless your camera locks onto the subject using one of those focus points, your subject will not be in focus. The bird you tried to photograph was not at a location where it would be covered by a focus point. Therefore I suspect the camera tried to focus using the center focus point, but there wasn't enough contrast in the cloud so it couldn't focus on the cloud either.

Your camera (D3100) has 11 focus points, but at f/7.1, I'm not sure that all 11 are able to focus. The center focus point is usually able to focus more easily than the other focus points. With your camera, you need to try to keep the subject in the center of the frame while in AF-C AF mode; using the Dynamic-area AF, Auto-area AF, or 3D-tracking AF-area mode.

Also, when your shutter speed is faster than 1/1000 sec, turn VR (vibration reduction) off.

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Apr 9, 2019 08:20:06   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
jackpinoh wrote:
Check your camera manual to see where the focus points are located on the sensor. Unless your camera locks onto the subject using one of those focus points, your subject will not be in focus. The bird you tried to photograph was not at a location where it would be covered by a focus point. Therefore I suspect the camera tried to focus using the center focus point, but there wasn't enough contrast in the cloud so it couldn't focus on the cloud either.

Your camera (D3100) has 11 focus points, but at f/7.1, I'm not sure that all 11 are able to focus. The center focus point is usually able to focus more easily than the other focus points. With your camera, you need to try to keep the subject in the center of the frame while in AF-C AF mode; using the Dynamic-area AF, Auto-area AF, or 3D-tracking AF-area mode.
Check your camera manual to see where the focus po... (show quote)


Focus is done acquired at the widest available aperture and then shuts down to the chosen aperture for the shot. So that is likely not the issue. Unfortunately, I could not find lens info in the EXIF data.

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Apr 9, 2019 08:22:43   #
David Kay Loc: Arlington Heights IL
 
Here is the dof for the shot the OP took
Depth of field
Near limit 254.6 ft
Far limit 365.1 ft
Total 110.5 ft

So if the bird is not within that 100 feet of focus area, the bird will be out of focus.

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Apr 9, 2019 09:21:40   #
JCam Loc: MD Eastern Shore
 
Are you using spot focus flogging he camera pick the focus point? I also think to are pushing your luck using a 270mmm lens at that distance; I use a Tamron 70-300 mmm and often get similar results. Are you sure the camera s rock steady? It could be a camera shake problem too.

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Apr 9, 2019 09:22:13   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Steve Perry has an excellent series of YouTube videos about focusing with Nikon DSLR's. Check him out.

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Apr 9, 2019 09:48:29   #
Zooman 1
 
I think you need a longer lens for what you are trying to do. With a 270mm at 100 yards you will not fill the frame enough for sharp flight shots. IMHO.

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Apr 9, 2019 10:07:40   #
agillot
 
try hand focus , also at least 1/1000 .you need at least a 600mm lens for birds .

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Apr 9, 2019 10:49:15   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
Fergie wrote:
My initial question was if my Nikon D3100 with a Tamron 18-270 would do a good job for a crisp photo at 100 yards. I also need to learn how to understand camera settings.
Thank You!


Were you using a single center focusing point say when you shot that duck? If so your focus point would have been way off your subject. Check for yourself, shoot 8 to 10 shots and just look at the viewing screen on the back of your camera, if the duck (subject) is not centered then your focus will be off. As to your original question, yes your camera and lens setup can take good, better, images then what you have shown here. To get sharp , feather detail, you will have to get closer, it always helps even if you are shooting a 150-600mm lens. A lot will also depend on the size of your subject and whether its moving fast or slow or standing still. Light coming from behind you will always be your friend. Study and learn to understand the association between aperture, shutter speed and ISO. I think you may be surprised and delighted to see what a seasoned wildlife photographer could do with your setup.

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