Nice composition with the crop. It does seem very grainy even for a heavily cropped photo with low ISO. I wandered into Best Buy a week or so ago, and they had a whole line of Sony cameras to play with, so naturally I did. They were very nice in hand and felt like very high quality. The rx10 4, especially so. I wanted to take it home with me. Having been a long time Canon user, and now with a Nikon 810, I still miss, what I considered to be Canon's extremely usable and intuitive menu system. Sometimes I wish I had stayed with Canon just for that reason.
fergmark wrote:
Nice composition with the crop. It does seem very grainy even for a heavily cropped photo with low ISO. I wandered into Best Buy a week or so ago, and they had a whole line of Sony cameras to play with, so naturally I did. They were very nice in hand and felt like very high quality. The rx10 4, especially so. I wanted to take it home with me. Having been a long time Canon user, and now with a Nikon 810, I still miss, what I considered to be Canon's extremely usable and intuitive menu system. Sometimes I wish I had stayed with Canon just for that reason.
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I agree. There is quite a bit of noise. I saved the original as a TIFF and cropped.
Any better?
Earnest Botello wrote:
Very good shot, Mark.
Thanks, Earnest!! Not great, but not too shabby either.
Mark
Very nice, Mark. I like the contrast of the bird against that background.
Unclehoss wrote:
Very nice, Mark. I like the contrast of the bird against that background.
Thank you!! Nothing special - just used a large aperture which blurred the background. For me, that always makes the subject "stand out".
Mark
Every camera manufacturer/marketer has their own ides about the logic of presentation of menu/setting items. For the user, once you have learned the logic used for YOUR camera that method of presentation seems right and others are obscure and unconventional.
I learned on Sony and understand the arrangement of the Sony menu system so Canon/Nikon setting menus are a little opaque for me, Given enough time, I'm sure that I could discover the logic behind the way they present and group their menu offerings.
If something is new and different it is always more difficult than something familiar. At least that is what I attribute as the reason behind the comments about the clumsiness of the Sony camera menus.
photogeneralist wrote:
Every camera manufacturer/marketer has their own ides about the logic of presentation of menu/setting items. For the user, once you have learned the logic used for YOUR camera that method of presentation seems right and others are obscure and unconventional.
I learned on Sony and understand the arrangement of the Sony menu system so Canon/Nikon setting menus are a little opaque for me, Given enough time, I'm sure that I could discover the logic behind the way they present and group their menu offerings.
If something is new and different it is always more difficult than something familiar. At least that is what I attribute as the reason behind the comments about the clumsiness of the Sony camera menus.
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I agree with your analysis.
Mark
markngolf wrote:
I agree. There is quite a bit of noise. I saved the original as a TIFF and cropped.
Any better?
Yup. That’s pretty different :)
I think that is cropped, at 50ft I would trust the quality of the zoom and zoom closer rather than crop as much. There will be very little grain effect unless you were wanting the grain effect.
Kevjones777 wrote:
I think that is cropped, at 50ft I would trust the quality of the zoom and zoom closer rather than crop as much. There will be very little grain effect unless you were wanting the grain effect.
I indicated that it was cropped in the title. I agree with your take but I cannot hand hold steady beyond a zoom of 200mm. Too long a story to explain. If you are interested, read a few of my posts.
Mark
Ja Mark I did bud....I get it. You have no choice then but to go as high as u can on your shutter. I constantly use 1000th when I have light, even though it sacrifices a bit of detail, keeps me steady.
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