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Feb 15, 2013 09:29:33   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite/1921991/

Probably one of those North Korean missiles. They do seem to have problems with their guidance control. :roll:

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Feb 15, 2013 09:35:02   #
stevenswild Loc: sin city
 
my thoughts exactly. :thumbup:



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Feb 15, 2013 09:45:18   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
stevenswild wrote:
my thoughts exactly. :thumbup:


Nice Martini bar. :thumbup:

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Feb 15, 2013 09:50:46   #
PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North
 
pounder35 wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite/1921991/

Probably one of those North Korean missiles. They do seem to have problems with their guidance control. :roll:


Wrong again - it was Bush's fault.

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Feb 15, 2013 09:54:56   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
PrairieSeasons wrote:
pounder35 wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite/1921991/

Probably one of those North Korean missiles. They do seem to have problems with their guidance control. :roll:


Wrong again - it was Bush's fault.


That was my second guess. :thumbup:

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Feb 15, 2013 09:55:22   #
stevenswild Loc: sin city
 
I knew you'd like that! :wink:

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Feb 16, 2013 07:47:01   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
pounder35 wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite/1921991/

Probably one of those North Korean missiles. They do seem to have problems with their guidance control. :roll:


At over 14,000 pounds and the size of a school bus, this was no meteorite. The blast wake alone from something that large passing at well over the speed of sound would do real damage to any city. I'm amazed that it didn't cause even more damage than reported. There's one area in Siberia where it looked like the wake from the Mt St. Helen's blast for hundreds of miles from a meteor that hit Russia some time in the mid 1800's or early 1900's.
Now if we could just figure out how to aim these things to hit those nuclear enrichment facilities in Iran and North Korea. Just a thought....

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Feb 16, 2013 08:29:52   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
singleviking wrote:
pounder35 wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite/1921991/

Probably one of those North Korean missiles. They do seem to have problems with their guidance control. :roll:


At over 14,000 pounds and the size of a school bus, this was no meteorite. The blast wake alone from something that large passing at well over the speed of sound would do real damage to any city. I'm amazed that it didn't cause even more damage than reported. There's one area in Siberia where it looked like the wake from the Mt St. Helen's blast for hundreds of miles from a meteor that hit Russia some time in the mid 1800's or early 1900's.
Now if we could just figure out how to aim these things to hit those nuclear enrichment facilities in Iran and North Korea. Just a thought....
quote=pounder35 http://www.usatoday.com/story/new... (show quote)


Hmmmm. Make take out Iran's nuclear facilities and BLAME it on a meteorite. Then deny it all. Blame it on Allah. :roll: :lol: :thumbup:

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Feb 16, 2013 08:48:55   #
Clif Loc: Central Ca.
 
Perhaps the Korean guy in the nose cone, i.e. guidance control system, was using Apple maps. I bet there was a lot of laundry done Friday. All levity aside, I do feel for those who were hurt by that, and thinking about a rain of falling broken glass from several stories up is frightening.

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Feb 16, 2013 11:38:52   #
Hunter Lou 1947 Loc: Minnesota
 
singleviking wrote:
pounder35 wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite/1921991/

Probably one of those North Korean missiles. They do seem to have problems with their guidance control. :roll:


At over 14,000 pounds and the size of a school bus, this was no meteorite. The blast wake alone from something that large passing at well over the speed of sound would do real damage to any city. I'm amazed that it didn't cause even more damage than reported. There's one area in Siberia where it looked like the wake from the Mt St. Helen's blast for hundreds of miles from a meteor that hit Russia some time in the mid 1800's or early 1900's.
Now if we could just figure out how to aim these things to hit those nuclear enrichment facilities in Iran and North Korea. Just a thought....
quote=pounder35 http://www.usatoday.com/story/new... (show quote)


Just a thought, I'm wondering why we haven't yet commissioned a group of nations to think about how we'd alter the course of a future mass headed for our planet. We'd better be doing something before it may be too late to change the course of an impact or to have the capabilities to break one up into smaller pieces. It's something serious to think about.

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Feb 16, 2013 12:19:54   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
singleviking wrote:
pounder35 wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite/1921991/

Probably one of those North Korean missiles. They do seem to have problems with their guidance control. :roll:


At over 14,000 pounds and the size of a school bus, this was no meteorite. The blast wake alone from something that large passing at well over the speed of sound would do real damage to any city. I'm amazed that it didn't cause even more damage than reported. There's one area in Siberia where it looked like the wake from the Mt St. Helen's blast for hundreds of miles from a meteor that hit Russia some time in the mid 1800's or early 1900's.
Now if we could just figure out how to aim these things to hit those nuclear enrichment facilities in Iran and North Korea. Just a thought....
quote=pounder35 http://www.usatoday.com/story/new... (show quote)


Just a thought, I'm wondering why we haven't yet commissioned a group of nations to think about how we'd alter the course of a future mass headed for our planet. We'd better be doing something before it may be too late to change the course of an impact or to have the capabilities to break one up into smaller pieces. It's something serious to think about.
quote=singleviking quote=pounder35 http://www.us... (show quote)


NASA, the European Space Administration and the Russian Space Administration have pondered this problem for many years. There is presently a project that will land a robotic rover on a large asteroid and evaluate the geology and mineral structure to determine the most efficient method to either alter it's trajectory or break up the rock. There are numerous proposals on the drawing boards, but without solid data, none can be implemented, and to just shoot nuclear missiles at it would be unreliable and futile.
The best method is some form of deflection or alteration in trajectory so the object will miss the earth completely (as the second asteroid on February 15, 2013 did). This proposal utilizes well placed rocket engines mounted or fixed into the asteroid at strategic points and implements a computerized firing mechanism if the object is tumbling. Other proposals utilize solar sails or explosives but these are either too costly or not efficient or reliable as the fragments will still be on a crash course toward earth.

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Feb 16, 2013 13:36:26   #
Hunter Lou 1947 Loc: Minnesota
 
singleviking wrote:
Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
singleviking wrote:
pounder35 wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite/1921991/

Probably one of those North Korean missiles. They do seem to have problems with their guidance control. :roll:


At over 14,000 pounds and the size of a school bus, this was no meteorite. The blast wake alone from something that large passing at well over the speed of sound would do real damage to any city. I'm amazed that it didn't cause even more damage than reported. There's one area in Siberia where it looked like the wake from the Mt St. Helen's blast for hundreds of miles from a meteor that hit Russia some time in the mid 1800's or early 1900's.
Now if we could just figure out how to aim these things to hit those nuclear enrichment facilities in Iran and North Korea. Just a thought....
quote=pounder35 http://www.usatoday.com/story/new... (show quote)


Just a thought, I'm wondering why we haven't yet commissioned a group of nations to think about how we'd alter the course of a future mass headed for our planet. We'd better be doing something before it may be too late to change the course of an impact or to have the capabilities to break one up into smaller pieces. It's something serious to think about.
quote=singleviking quote=pounder35 http://www.us... (show quote)


NASA, the European Space Administration and the Russian Space Administration have pondered this problem for many years. There is presently a project that will land a robotic rover on a large asteroid and evaluate the geology and mineral structure to determine the most efficient method to either alter it's trajectory or break up the rock. There are numerous proposals on the drawing boards, but without solid data, none can be implemented, and to just shoot nuclear missiles at it would be unreliable and futile.
The best method is some form of deflection or alteration in trajectory so the object will miss the earth completely (as the second asteroid on February 15, 2013 did). This proposal utilizes well placed rocket engines mounted or fixed into the asteroid at strategic points and implements a computerized firing mechanism if the object is tumbling. Other proposals utilize solar sails or explosives but these are either too costly or not efficient or reliable as the fragments will still be on a crash course toward earth.
quote=Hunter Lou 1947 quote=singleviking quote=... (show quote)


It appears those idea's are light years away. It concerns my thoughts as to why no one knew of the coming of the one that came down in Russia. Can you just wonder what would have happened if it would have come do in the middle of a major city, why there would have been trmendous confusion and what not all going on.

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Feb 16, 2013 13:40:13   #
Jamers Loc: Michigan
 
singleviking wrote:
pounder35 wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite/1921991/

Probably one of those North Korean missiles. They do seem to have problems with their guidance control. :roll:


At over 14,000 pounds and the size of a school bus, this was no meteorite. The blast wake alone from something that large passing at well over the speed of sound would do real damage to any city. I'm amazed that it didn't cause even more damage than reported. There's one area in Siberia where it looked like the wake from the Mt St. Helen's blast for hundreds of miles from a meteor that hit Russia some time in the mid 1800's or early 1900's.
Now if we could just figure out how to aim these things to hit those nuclear enrichment facilities in Iran and North Korea. Just a thought....
quote=pounder35 http://www.usatoday.com/story/new... (show quote)


Then what do you think it was?

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Feb 16, 2013 14:30:21   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
Jamers wrote:
singleviking wrote:
pounder35 wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite/1921991/

Probably one of those North Korean missiles. They do seem to have problems with their guidance control. :roll:


At over 14,000 pounds and the size of a school bus, this was no meteorite. The blast wake alone from something that large passing at well over the speed of sound would do real damage to any city. I'm amazed that it didn't cause even more damage than reported. There's one area in Siberia where it looked like the wake from the Mt St. Helen's blast for hundreds of miles from a meteor that hit Russia some time in the mid 1800's or early 1900's.
Now if we could just figure out how to aim these things to hit those nuclear enrichment facilities in Iran and North Korea. Just a thought....
quote=pounder35 http://www.usatoday.com/story/new... (show quote)


Then what do you think it was?
quote=singleviking quote=pounder35 http://www.us... (show quote)


According to the International Astronomical Union, the object that recently caused havoc outside of Moscow is a METEOROID. Meteorites are typically much smaller and portions of a larger meteor that has broken into pieces when it hits the atmosphere.

From Wikipedia:
In 1961, the International Astronomical Union defined a meteoroid as "a solid object moving in interplanetary space, of a size considerably smaller than an asteroid and considerably larger than an atom".[2][3] In 1995, Beech and Steel, writing in Quarterly Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society, proposed a new definition where a meteoroid would be between 100 µm and 10 meters across.[4] Following the discovery of asteroids below 10 m in size, Rubin and Grossman refined the Beech and Steel definition of meteoroid to objects between 10 µm and 1 m in diameter.[5] The smallest asteroid (based on absolute magnitude) is 2008 TS26 with an absolute magnitude of 33.2,[6] and an estimated size of 1-meter.[7] Objects smaller than meteoroids are classified as micrometeoroids and cosmic dust. The Minor Planet Center does not use the term "meteoroid"

As this recent object is larger than 1 meter in size, it may well qualify as a full fledged METEOR, but that has yet to be determined upon it's full excavation and examination.

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Feb 16, 2013 15:05:52   #
ttlthor Loc: Grapevine, Texas
 
Perhaps we need to look at banning assualt asteroids and high capacity meteoroids. I mean, if it saves just one life...

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