sinatraman
Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
and the difference between a drone flying in the sky and a police helicopter in the same sky is what? other then the chopper being manned. all privacy died with the invention of the computer.
Elfstop wrote:
"Where are those people which not like photographer take picture of them at street?"
What?
Easy for him to say, guess he had his neck in a cramp looking up. Look out for the killer flies.
F16 Club wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
"Where are those people which not like photographer take picture of them at street?"
What?
What ?
Twenty years with the Sheriff's Dept...last 5 as an Investigator.
Now you will have a robot sustitute .
What? what?
Thought Barney had retired when Andy did.
rcirr wrote:
I have a real problem with these drones. I think not only are there security concerns but privicy is an issue. The article tells us each state and municipality will post their privicy policies? Then what? Not click accept like you do on line? Technology in general is creating a need to look at privacy issues. CCTV everywhere...websites collecting massive amounts of data......camera phones and now the government sticking it's nose into healthcare. I believe we need to take a long careful look at how privacy will be effected in the future.
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What you been looking thru the bottom of a Jim Beam bottle?
sinatraman wrote:
and the difference between a drone flying in the sky and a police helicopter in the same sky is what? other then the chopper being manned. all privacy died with the invention of the computer.
Thought it did with the invention of the camera.
Don't get the matter serious, and you will get a nightmare.
Liberty is a constant vigilance of what governemnt is doing not the other way around.
No one man has the power to damage a nation or government, but government has the power to make the misery of one man or the whole people.
rcirr
Loc: Gilbert, Arizona
UP-2-IT wrote:
rcirr wrote:
I have a real problem with these drones. I think not only are there security concerns but privicy is an issue. The article tells us each state and municipality will post their privicy policies? Then what? Not click accept like you do on line? Technology in general is creating a need to look at privacy issues. CCTV everywhere...websites collecting massive amounts of data......camera phones and now the government sticking it's nose into healthcare. I believe we need to take a long careful look at how privacy will be effected in the future.
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What you been looking thru the bottom of a Jim Beam bottle?
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Because I have an issue with drones I'm looking through the bottom of a Jim Beam bottle? Interesting logic. Maybe someone is projecting? Just out of curiosity...which of the statements I made to you believe to be factually inaccurate?
rcirr
Loc: Gilbert, Arizona
sinatraman wrote:
and the difference between a drone flying in the sky and a police helicopter in the same sky is what? other then the chopper being manned. all privacy died with the invention of the computer.
The difference between manned and unmanned is twofold. As time goes on, the drones will get smaller and smaller. This allows them to get to places a manned aircraft could never get...and without as much noise. Plus the costs will go down. The result will be a large increase in the amount of surveillance to the point it may become a problem.
rcirr wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
and the difference between a drone flying in the sky and a police helicopter in the same sky is what? other then the chopper being manned. all privacy died with the invention of the computer.
The difference between manned and unmanned is twofold. As time goes on, the drones will get smaller and smaller. This allows them to get to places a manned aircraft could never get...and without as much noise. Plus the costs will go down. The result will be a large increase in the amount of surveillance to the point it may become a problem.
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One day in the not to far distant future they will be like a hummingbird flitting around.
rcirr
Loc: Gilbert, Arizona
Elfstop wrote:
rcirr wrote:
I have a real problem with these drones. I think not only are there security concerns but privicy is an issue. The article tells us each state and municipality will post their privicy policies? Then what? Not click accept like you do on line? Technology in general is creating a need to look at privacy issues. CCTV everywhere...websites collecting massive amounts of data......camera phones and now the government sticking it's nose into healthcare. I believe we need to take a long careful look at how privacy will be effected in the future.
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Lol ok I see what the problem is...the right to privacy you have to agree does not apply when you are out in public...but the minute the word drone is brought up...unlike airplanes and other orbital things ( that has been there forever AND taking pictures) because they are remote you think you still have the right to privacy...well you don't. IF you are outside (the only place a drone can watch you ) you still do noy have that right.
And you just had to show your true thoughts..Obama. My God get over him.
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For purposes of full disclosure, I am in the electronic security business. I do a lot of CCTV work for hospitals, schools as well as municpalities. I agree, there is no expectation of privacy in public (seems kind of obvious but some people don't get it) however...what about your back yard? Do you have to give up your right to privacy to let some light into your 2nd floor window? What if the drone has infrared capability? Maybe super sensitive listening devices? If you see a manned helicopter hovering outside your bedroom window, you might be able to figure out something was up. On the other hand, a silent drone 18 inches long would probably go unnoticed. My point is the potential for abuse by the government, government employees or even civilians that have access to the equipment is great.
As to my "true thoughts"....it took me a while to realize you were referring to my mentioning government involvement into healthcare. So it's your position I should get over him? It's not him...I could care less about Obama personally. It's the stupid law that gives the government all kinds of new powers over myself and the entire country that I have a problem with. Get over him? Get over losing more and more freedom? I don't think so. Also for your information, I agree with his use of drones overseas against terrorists. I just don't think the government should have the power to invade citizens' privacy without a warrant. My problem is with the policy...not the man.
rcirr
Loc: Gilbert, Arizona
UP-2-IT wrote:
rcirr wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
and the difference between a drone flying in the sky and a police helicopter in the same sky is what? other then the chopper being manned. all privacy died with the invention of the computer.
The difference between manned and unmanned is twofold. As time goes on, the drones will get smaller and smaller. This allows them to get to places a manned aircraft could never get...and without as much noise. Plus the costs will go down. The result will be a large increase in the amount of surveillance to the point it may become a problem.
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One day in the not to far distant future they will be like a hummingbird flitting around.
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Actually, devices like that already exist...but they are too expensive and still a little to unreliable to be practical.
rcirr wrote:
UP-2-IT wrote:
rcirr wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
and the difference between a drone flying in the sky and a police helicopter in the same sky is what? other then the chopper being manned. all privacy died with the invention of the computer.
The difference between manned and unmanned is twofold. As time goes on, the drones will get smaller and smaller. This allows them to get to places a manned aircraft could never get...and without as much noise. Plus the costs will go down. The result will be a large increase in the amount of surveillance to the point it may become a problem.
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One day in the not to far distant future they will be like a hummingbird flitting around.
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Actually, devices like that already exist...but they are too expensive and still a little to unreliable to be practical.
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rcirr;
too expensive and still a little to unreliable to be practical?
My fellow they are making millions of divice in china at a cost of $0.002 after cost of investment.
over the one that is going to instal under your skin.
We have to call all our representative , they are complices of this intrution.
rcirr wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
rcirr wrote:
I have a real problem with these drones. I think not only are there security concerns but privicy is an issue. The article tells us each state and municipality will post their privicy policies? Then what? Not click accept like you do on line? Technology in general is creating a need to look at privacy issues. CCTV everywhere...websites collecting massive amounts of data......camera phones and now the government sticking it's nose into healthcare. I believe we need to take a long careful look at how privacy will be effected in the future.
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Lol ok I see what the problem is...the right to privacy you have to agree does not apply when you are out in public...but the minute the word drone is brought up...unlike airplanes and other orbital things ( that has been there forever AND taking pictures) because they are remote you think you still have the right to privacy...well you don't. IF you are outside (the only place a drone can watch you ) you still do noy have that right.
And you just had to show your true thoughts..Obama. My God get over him.
quote=rcirr quote=F16 Club Where are those peopl... (
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For purposes of full disclosure, I am in the electronic security business. I do a lot of CCTV work for hospitals, schools as well as municpalities. I agree, there is no expectation of privacy in public (seems kind of obvious but some people don't get it) however...what about your back yard? Do you have to give up your right to privacy to let some light into your 2nd floor window? What if the drone has infrared capability? Maybe super sensitive listening devices? If you see a manned helicopter hovering outside your bedroom window, you might be able to figure out something was up. On the other hand, a silent drone 18 inches long would probably go unnoticed. My point is the potential for abuse by the government, government employees or even civilians that have access to the equipment is great.
As to my "true thoughts"....it took me a while to realize you were referring to my mentioning government involvement into healthcare. So it's your position I should get over him? It's not him...I could care less about Obama personally. It's the stupid law that gives the government all kinds of new powers over myself and the entire country that I have a problem with. Get over him? Get over losing more and more freedom? I don't think so. Also for your information, I agree with his use of drones overseas against terrorists. I just don't think the government should have the power to invade citizens' privacy without a warrant. My problem is with the policy...not the man.
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rc, your stressing out over imagined fears. Do you really think the Government gives a hoot security wise about us, John Q. Citizen? Now if your name is Ambar Ladidmali and you live with your 7 cousins from Pakistan they damn well better be worring about you. I honestly don't think the average citizen has any reason to worry.
UP-2-IT wrote:
rcirr wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
rcirr wrote:
I have a real problem with these drones. I think not only are there security concerns but privicy is an issue. The article tells us each state and municipality will post their privicy policies? Then what? Not click accept like you do on line? Technology in general is creating a need to look at privacy issues. CCTV everywhere...websites collecting massive amounts of data......camera phones and now the government sticking it's nose into healthcare. I believe we need to take a long careful look at how privacy will be effected in the future.
quote=F16 Club Where are those people which not l... (
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Lol ok I see what the problem is...the right to privacy you have to agree does not apply when you are out in public...but the minute the word drone is brought up...unlike airplanes and other orbital things ( that has been there forever AND taking pictures) because they are remote you think you still have the right to privacy...well you don't. IF you are outside (the only place a drone can watch you ) you still do noy have that right.
And you just had to show your true thoughts..Obama. My God get over him.
quote=rcirr quote=F16 Club Where are those peopl... (
show quote)
For purposes of full disclosure, I am in the electronic security business. I do a lot of CCTV work for hospitals, schools as well as municpalities. I agree, there is no expectation of privacy in public (seems kind of obvious but some people don't get it) however...what about your back yard? Do you have to give up your right to privacy to let some light into your 2nd floor window? What if the drone has infrared capability? Maybe super sensitive listening devices? If you see a manned helicopter hovering outside your bedroom window, you might be able to figure out something was up. On the other hand, a silent drone 18 inches long would probably go unnoticed. My point is the potential for abuse by the government, government employees or even civilians that have access to the equipment is great.
As to my "true thoughts"....it took me a while to realize you were referring to my mentioning government involvement into healthcare. So it's your position I should get over him? It's not him...I could care less about Obama personally. It's the stupid law that gives the government all kinds of new powers over myself and the entire country that I have a problem with. Get over him? Get over losing more and more freedom? I don't think so. Also for your information, I agree with his use of drones overseas against terrorists. I just don't think the government should have the power to invade citizens' privacy without a warrant. My problem is with the policy...not the man.
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rc, your stressing out over imagined fears. Do you really think the Government gives a hoot security wise about us, John Q. Citizen? Now if your name is Ambar Ladidmali and you live with your 7 cousins from Pakistan they damn well better be worring about you. I honestly don't think the average citizen has any reason to worry.
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UP-2-IT and rc;
Go back to history it reapet itself, when Nazis nobody care were jews in the bonfire, then poland, then other so.
Is not matter of fear is only precaution.
I have you ever thought the gas price will be $4.99? why if nowsday the production is on top. This is more danger to american economic than terrorism.
F16 Club wrote:
UP-2-IT wrote:
rcirr wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
rcirr wrote:
I have a real problem with these drones. I think not only are there security concerns but privicy is an issue. The article tells us each state and municipality will post their privicy policies? Then what? Not click accept like you do on line? Technology in general is creating a need to look at privacy issues. CCTV everywhere...websites collecting massive amounts of data......camera phones and now the government sticking it's nose into healthcare. I believe we need to take a long careful look at how privacy will be effected in the future.
quote=F16 Club Where are those people which not l... (
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Lol ok I see what the problem is...the right to privacy you have to agree does not apply when you are out in public...but the minute the word drone is brought up...unlike airplanes and other orbital things ( that has been there forever AND taking pictures) because they are remote you think you still have the right to privacy...well you don't. IF you are outside (the only place a drone can watch you ) you still do noy have that right.
And you just had to show your true thoughts..Obama. My God get over him.
quote=rcirr quote=F16 Club Where are those peopl... (
show quote)
For purposes of full disclosure, I am in the electronic security business. I do a lot of CCTV work for hospitals, schools as well as municpalities. I agree, there is no expectation of privacy in public (seems kind of obvious but some people don't get it) however...what about your back yard? Do you have to give up your right to privacy to let some light into your 2nd floor window? What if the drone has infrared capability? Maybe super sensitive listening devices? If you see a manned helicopter hovering outside your bedroom window, you might be able to figure out something was up. On the other hand, a silent drone 18 inches long would probably go unnoticed. My point is the potential for abuse by the government, government employees or even civilians that have access to the equipment is great.
As to my "true thoughts"....it took me a while to realize you were referring to my mentioning government involvement into healthcare. So it's your position I should get over him? It's not him...I could care less about Obama personally. It's the stupid law that gives the government all kinds of new powers over myself and the entire country that I have a problem with. Get over him? Get over losing more and more freedom? I don't think so. Also for your information, I agree with his use of drones overseas against terrorists. I just don't think the government should have the power to invade citizens' privacy without a warrant. My problem is with the policy...not the man.
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rc, your stressing out over imagined fears. Do you really think the Government gives a hoot security wise about us, John Q. Citizen? Now if your name is Ambar Ladidmali and you live with your 7 cousins from Pakistan they damn well better be worring about you. I honestly don't think the average citizen has any reason to worry.
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UP-2-IT and rc;
Go back to history it reapet itself, when Nazis nobody care were jews in the bonfire, then poland, then other so.
Is not matter of fear is only precaution.
I have you ever thought the gas price will be $4.99? why if nowsday the production is on top. This is more danger to american economic than terrorism.
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