SRGB or Adobe RGB
Feb 12, 2013 08:13:51 #
[quote=GrahamS]This subject has been thrashed to death here and if you do a search you will find dozens of threads about colour space useage.
In summary, the web uses sRGB because electronic displays are calibrated to sRGB by default and cannot display the full AdobeRGB colour space. If you set your camera to AdobeRGB you can get the most from your printer but you should convert any files that you post on the web to sRGB.
I am in full agreement.
GHK
In summary, the web uses sRGB because electronic displays are calibrated to sRGB by default and cannot display the full AdobeRGB colour space. If you set your camera to AdobeRGB you can get the most from your printer but you should convert any files that you post on the web to sRGB.
I am in full agreement.
GHK
Feb 12, 2013 08:14:56 #
Feb 12, 2013 08:21:33 #
There is an analogy- the choice of colour space is similar to raw vs jpg. Do you want the most information in your file as physically possible or not.
Nikon allows AbobeRGB or sRGB at point of shooting, (leaving aside the ProPhoto colour space- the biggest)
so AdobeRGB is the choice for Nikon shooters that require the most out of the original file.
When post production is complete the colour space (still in Adobe RGB) should be chosen/changed appropriate to the final use ie web, ink jet or offset. Photoshop has a dialogue for this "edit.... convert to profile" for web best to go "file.....save for web".
My working method uses the AdobeRGB colour space in post and if I have to go to sRGB for web use for example I will typically boost contrast a little and vibrance to help the duller sRGB look like my original. Then save for web which does the conversion.
Nikon allows AbobeRGB or sRGB at point of shooting, (leaving aside the ProPhoto colour space- the biggest)
so AdobeRGB is the choice for Nikon shooters that require the most out of the original file.
When post production is complete the colour space (still in Adobe RGB) should be chosen/changed appropriate to the final use ie web, ink jet or offset. Photoshop has a dialogue for this "edit.... convert to profile" for web best to go "file.....save for web".
My working method uses the AdobeRGB colour space in post and if I have to go to sRGB for web use for example I will typically boost contrast a little and vibrance to help the duller sRGB look like my original. Then save for web which does the conversion.
Feb 12, 2013 08:22:46 #
DPFotos wrote:
I think you got that turned around. Almost all large printing firms MPIX et al require sRGB....I read an article awhile back on the NAPP website and they were explaing why Adobe RGB was best for the web...
Frank T wrote:
I'd say srgb if it's going to be on a computer screen and Adobe RGB if you're going to print it.
SRGB was designed for computer screens and Adobe for print media.
Can I see the difference? Not really.
SRGB was designed for computer screens and Adobe for print media.
Can I see the difference? Not really.
I think you got that turned around. Almost all large printing firms MPIX et al require sRGB....I read an article awhile back on the NAPP website and they were explaing why Adobe RGB was best for the web...
Not being in the US, I don't know anything about MPIX. I have to doubt whether, if they are big as suggested, they use inkjet printers. Most of the items posted on UHH about printing ARE about inkjets.
I use inkjet with AdobeRGB. If I do send work to a large printing house then I provide what they ask for.
GHK
Feb 12, 2013 08:29:23 #
DPFotos
Loc: Pembroke, Ma
GrahamS wrote:
quote=DPFotos quote=Frank T I'd say srgb if it's... (show quote)
Feb 12, 2013 08:30:03 #
I'm entering the "never print" world. I'm selling my printer (Epson R1800) and paper and ink supply for peanuts ($150). I have thousands and thousands of images not worth printing and the professionals I send my most outstanding images to are so much better with colors, have better equipment, and have time to do the work. So I shoot RAW capturing all of the colors I can for the professional printers to do their thing.
Feb 12, 2013 08:35:37 #
If you will look in your manual it will likely give you an explanation of the two and a recommendation of which your camera will use in basic mode. You can usually choose which you want in non basic mode. If you use a lab it's a good idea to ask what they prefer. Depending on your computer your image colors may look subdued using RGB.
Feb 12, 2013 08:36:45 #
GrahamS wrote:
Why? If you shoot in sRGB saving the file as ProColor will gain you nothing. You can't create what isn't there in the first place.
photocat wrote:
I save in Procolor space and print in aRGB, and shoot in aRGB.
Why? If you shoot in sRGB saving the file as ProColor will gain you nothing. You can't create what isn't there in the first place.
You can, by using all that is available in photoshop... manipulating say for example 'Saturation' you can shift colours into the ProPhoto gamut which is a larger space
Feb 12, 2013 08:58:12 #
I shoot commercially. All my clients require the Adobe 1998 color space. If my client is using the image in several ways, such as printing and web use, I'll make two versions for them. One in Adobe 1998 (for magazine printing) and another file in sRGB for their web use.
Feb 12, 2013 09:42:44 #
Effjayess wrote:
I have seen and heard good arguments for both. Would fellow UHHers weigh in on the question. If your camera has both what do you select and why.
Try this link. Very interesting.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/adobe-rgb.htm
Feb 12, 2013 09:49:18 #
photocat
Loc: Atlanta, Ga
GrahamS wrote:
Why? If you shoot in sRGB saving the file as ProColor will gain you nothing. You can't create what isn't there in the first place.
photocat wrote:
I save in Procolor space and print in aRGB, and shoot in aRGB.
Why? If you shoot in sRGB saving the file as ProColor will gain you nothing. You can't create what isn't there in the first place.
Because sooner or later that color space will be available for printing, and it isn't any problem, as photoshop just assigns it as the default.
And i never shoot in sRGB, I use aRGB,
Feb 12, 2013 10:23:23 #
I print at Costco and they use sRGB. The prints I get back when I convert to sRGB before downloading are very close to what I see on my screen. When I send in Adobe they are way off.
Feb 12, 2013 10:24:55 #
paulsm wrote:
I shoot commercially. All my clients require the Adobe 1998 color space. If my client is using the image in several ways, such as printing and web use, I'll make two versions for them. One in Adobe 1998 (for magazine printing) and another file in sRGB for their web use.
:thumbup:
Feb 12, 2013 11:20:49 #
Effjayess wrote:
But dont we all evetually print?
Nope. I haven't printed a picture in 32 years yet have over 78,000 now. I have digital picture frames, digital photo books, computer slide shows, etc.
Feb 12, 2013 11:41:59 #
Effjayess wrote:
I have seen and heard good arguments for both. Would fellow UHHers weigh in on the question. If your camera has both what do you select and why.
AdobeRGB because it has 8000 different levels of brightness and sRGB only has 256. Huge difference.
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