SRGB or Adobe RGB
Feb 11, 2013 14:27:09 #
runsthebitterroot wrote:
Getting a good photo is a hard enough job without worrying about color space. Seems everything works just fine in sRGB. Why throw a variable in there that may or may not give good results?
Larry
Larry
If all your work is for the web or onscreen viewing sRGB is perfectly fine. If you print AND have a printer that is capable of rendering Adobe RBG, it is worth it.
In my opinion, the only way to see a photo in all its glory, color nuance and detail, is to print it.
Feb 11, 2013 14:58:22 #
birdpix wrote:
quote=runsthebitterroot Getting a good photo is a... (show quote)
The only info that I read that say's I will get a better picture is purely anecdotal. I would like to see a double blinded study showing that one is superior to the other.
Larry
Feb 11, 2013 16:31:13 #
runsthebitterroot wrote:
quote=birdpix quote=runsthebitterroot Getting a ... (show quote)
The only way to do that is to have the original prints in hand. Viewing it on the screen reverts everything to sRGB.
Feb 11, 2013 18:16:45 #
RichieC
Loc: Adirondacks
This is all about getting the most from a printers potential.
Providing a printer that is CMYK with srgb or Adobe RGB will not necessarily get a better print. Giving a 12 color printer a CMYK image will give you a cmyk print.. well below its potential.
Most brochures are CMYK, and they can look spectacular, a 12 color printer SHOULD give you a better print, but the subject has to take advantage of the large gamut. This isn't about sacrificing anything, stick with the higher Gmaut profile in the original and down sample images to whatever you wish as needed, you cam always clip an image, you can't really add color info back in, once removed.
No brainer unless someone has a reason not to.
Providing a printer that is CMYK with srgb or Adobe RGB will not necessarily get a better print. Giving a 12 color printer a CMYK image will give you a cmyk print.. well below its potential.
Most brochures are CMYK, and they can look spectacular, a 12 color printer SHOULD give you a better print, but the subject has to take advantage of the large gamut. This isn't about sacrificing anything, stick with the higher Gmaut profile in the original and down sample images to whatever you wish as needed, you cam always clip an image, you can't really add color info back in, once removed.
No brainer unless someone has a reason not to.
Feb 12, 2013 05:38:29 #
I seem to recall reading somewhere that sRGB images look better on the iPad; anyone else heard of that?
Feb 12, 2013 05:58:43 #
jeryh
Loc: Oxfordshire UK
If you are a landscape man, then you will presumably wish to print your images. Martin Evening, the Photoshop Guru, always referred to srgb as sh... red green and blue" and wouldn't entertain it, always recommending
Adobe RGB 1998 as the correct standard for colour reproduction and printing. srgb was introduced as a colour space for computers and to be re produced at 72, rather than 300ppi for print work
Adobe RGB 1998 as the correct standard for colour reproduction and printing. srgb was introduced as a colour space for computers and to be re produced at 72, rather than 300ppi for print work
Feb 12, 2013 06:09:41 #
[quote=runsthebitterroot][
The only info that I read that say's I will get a better picture is purely anecdotal. I would like to see a double blinded study showing that one is superior to the other.
Larry[/quote]
The statement that Adobe RGB has a wider gamut than sRGB is an experimentally established fact. This means that it is capable of describing more colours than sRGB. Whether a particular printer can reproduce all those colours on paper is a different matter and, indeed (no printer can). However, it can try whereas you cannot possibly print any colour from an sRGB file which it cannot even include.
So your best choice is Adobe; it might print a better range of colours than sRGB, but the reverse can never happen.
Take the safe route.
GHK
The only info that I read that say's I will get a better picture is purely anecdotal. I would like to see a double blinded study showing that one is superior to the other.
Larry[/quote]
The statement that Adobe RGB has a wider gamut than sRGB is an experimentally established fact. This means that it is capable of describing more colours than sRGB. Whether a particular printer can reproduce all those colours on paper is a different matter and, indeed (no printer can). However, it can try whereas you cannot possibly print any colour from an sRGB file which it cannot even include.
So your best choice is Adobe; it might print a better range of colours than sRGB, but the reverse can never happen.
Take the safe route.
GHK
Feb 12, 2013 06:12:48 #
Nic42 wrote:
I seem to recall reading somewhere that sRGB images look better on the iPad; anyone else heard of that?
I very much doubt that; it might look as good but the iPad is unlikely to be able to do justice to either an AdobeRGB or sRGB image.
GHK
Feb 12, 2013 06:38:30 #
photocat
Loc: Atlanta, Ga
runsthebitterroot wrote:
quote=birdpix quote=runsthebitterroot Getting a ... (show quote)
One can't see the difference on the internet, (unless you have a newer montior with a color space that is closer to ARGB.
However, I show prints to my students showing the difference when we discuss color space as that is where your going to be able to see the difference.
I save in Procolor space and print in aRGB, and shoot in aRGB.
Feb 12, 2013 07:18:20 #
Feb 12, 2013 07:36:39 #
This subject has been thrashed to death here and if you do a search you will find dozens of threads about colour space useage.
In summary, the web uses sRGB because electronic displays are calibrated to sRGB by default and cannot display the full AdobeRGB colour space. If you set your camera to AdobeRGB you can get the most from your printer but you should convert any files that you post on the web to sRGB.
If you post an AdobeRGB image on the web it will not look as good as it should look if it were a sRGB image because most display devices will decode the colours incorrectly.
In summary, the web uses sRGB because electronic displays are calibrated to sRGB by default and cannot display the full AdobeRGB colour space. If you set your camera to AdobeRGB you can get the most from your printer but you should convert any files that you post on the web to sRGB.
If you post an AdobeRGB image on the web it will not look as good as it should look if it were a sRGB image because most display devices will decode the colours incorrectly.
Feb 12, 2013 07:50:00 #
DPFotos
Loc: Pembroke, Ma
Frank T wrote:
I'd say srgb if it's going to be on a computer screen and Adobe RGB if you're going to print it.
SRGB was designed for computer screens and Adobe for print media.
Can I see the difference? Not really.
SRGB was designed for computer screens and Adobe for print media.
Can I see the difference? Not really.
I think you got that turned around. Almost all large printing firms MPIX et al require sRGB....I read an article awhile back on the NAPP website and they were explaing why Adobe RGB was best for the web...
Feb 12, 2013 08:07:21 #
Nic42 wrote:
I seem to recall reading somewhere that sRGB images look better on the iPad; anyone else heard of that?
Because the iPad is calibrated to sRGB by default, even though it's made by Adobe. The Retina display will reproduce the AdobeRGB gamut.
Feb 12, 2013 08:08:16 #
DPFotos wrote:
I think you got that turned around. Almost all large printing firms MPIX et al require sRGB....I read an article awhile back on the NAPP website and they were explaing why Adobe RGB was best for the web...
Frank T wrote:
I'd say srgb if it's going to be on a computer screen and Adobe RGB if you're going to print it.
SRGB was designed for computer screens and Adobe for print media.
Can I see the difference? Not really.
SRGB was designed for computer screens and Adobe for print media.
Can I see the difference? Not really.
I think you got that turned around. Almost all large printing firms MPIX et al require sRGB....I read an article awhile back on the NAPP website and they were explaing why Adobe RGB was best for the web...
No I've heard it all!
Feb 12, 2013 08:12:27 #
photocat wrote:
I save in Procolor space and print in aRGB, and shoot in aRGB.
Why? If you shoot in sRGB saving the file as ProColor will gain you nothing. You can't create what isn't there in the first place.
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