WildBill Loc: South West Florida

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PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas

You disagree inadvisedly. The picture I am enclosing is from a football game, but it should clearly illustrate the point. I shot it with a dimmer lens combination than the 28-300mm I suggested for indoor basketball. We will let others decide if the lens was bright enough. In a few days I should be able to dig up some basketball action shots, too, that were done with the very lens I suggested. Besides imposing framing problems up close, prime lens at F1.8 or wider also fail to reach the action on both ends of a basketball court.

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PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas

This is from a high school basketball game with the very lens I suggested, the Canon 28-300mm F3.5-5.6. Go ahead, tell me it is too dim.

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Fran Loc: Northeast, United States

Definitely not too dim. The ISO on this image was bumped up to 4000. Will a lesser camera body handle the higher ISO as well?

WildBill Loc: South West Florida

No it won't. 4000 ISO is very high and nikon recomends 800 - 1600 for indoor sports.

https://support.nikonusa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/14228/~/how-to-photograph-indoor-sports

Again, look at the clarity of the photos. All movement is blurred and photos are fuzzy because settings are not what is required for indoor or night time sports. Here is another article by SLR Lounge that states f4 is only for outdoor bright sunlight sports.

http://www.slrlounge.com/school/sports-photography-the-complete-guide-from-lenses-to-bodies/

These are professionals. They say you need an f2.8 or faster lens and that what he is recommending is not for indoor sports at all (just like I said). His suggestion is a great outdoor lens and he is stretching the limits of a 6,000 dollar camera to try and show how not to use a lens. With a real indoor sports lens he could be posting professional quality photos instead of this stuff. On a 1000 dollar camera, you will not get these results. 1600 ISO will produce grain in photos with most cameras.

WildBill Loc: South West Florida

I too shoot Canon but I do not have the 6k to spend on a body like you do. As a result, I cannot use the wrong lens and get fair results with it like you can. Indoor sports shot correctly uses a 1600 ISO max and even 1600 will compromise quality. Yes, with your camera you can probably take a photo of indoor sports with the 55mm kit lens from a Rebel. Is it the right lens? NO. The quality of your photos still say "wrong lens". Obviously you are not knowledgeable in indoor sports (or even football) and the equipment and settings used to take those pictures. I am sure you do great on the field during a bright afternoon so go to what you know and show us some really good photos with your lens instead of this sub par stuff.

WildBill Loc: South West Florida

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-88148-1.html

This is what a 85mm f1.8 gets you on a Rebel XTi body. With the lens PNagy recommends, I would not be able to get any photos at all with this body. On the body I have now, that lens would get me dark grainy blurred photos just like the kit lens it came with. Do not believe me... read the professional articles by the Digital Picture, Adorama, DP Review, Canon, Nikon, Ken Rockwell, etc. They will all tell you not to listen to PNagy. He does not know what he is talking about.

PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas

Wild BillI too shoot Canon but I do not have the 6k to spend on a body like you do. As a result, I cannot use the wrong lens and get fair results with it like you can. Indoor sports shot correctly uses a 1600 ISO max and even 1600 will compromise quality. Yes, with your camera you can probably take a photo of indoor sports with the 55mm kit lens from a Rebel. Is it the right lens? NO. The quality of your photos still say "wrong lens". Obviously you are not knowledgeable in indoor sports (or even football) and the equipment and settings used to take those pictures. I am sure you do great on the field during a bright afternoon so go to what you know and show us some really good photos with your lens instead of this sub par stuff.

Nagy: your sanctimonious superciliousness is very entertaining. You talk of my photos as being blurred, although others who view them do not think so. Your speak of knowledge I lack in totally dogmatic tones. The blur you mention is slight, and I can correct it with a slightly faster shutter speed. I chose not to do that, since I thought the slight suggestion of motion was all right. I also choose the lenses I use for their framing capability. Perhaps I should apologize for having a camera that can work well with lenses other cameras cannot.

granbob Loc: SW Wisc; E Iowa; W Illinois

A 50mm lens will give you a wider field of view and would be a good choice for high school gyms as you would have a choice of lenses with an aperture of 2.8 and wider available at a reasonable price. Have fun !

jr168

Most high school basketball is shot in badly lit gyms. In order to totally freeze the action for varsity sports, a shutter speed of at least 1/800 is recommended. 1/1000 would be preferred. In order to get to these speeds, an aperture of at least f/2.8 is usually needed. Even then, I am shooting at iso of 6400 to 10000 in most of the gyms in my area. That being said. The 24-70 is a great lens for under the basket. If you don't want to spend $2000 for this lens then I would suggest getting a 35 f/1.8. Shoot this at f/2 and sit just to the side of the key and you won't be disappointed. Use the 70-200 from the corner of the floor to get far court and mid court shots. Hope this helps.