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Jan 12, 2013 00:51:04   #
Jayne Loc: Wisconsin
 
Google Short Tailed Hawk.....his wing tips reach tail tip. They are rare!

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Jan 12, 2013 01:17:21   #
OC_DesertWalker Loc: Ojo Caliente, NM
 
Joyfullee wrote:
Hawk, not a great shot, but I got it! If anyone knows what kind of hawk this is, please let me know and thank you in advance.

Also a few others.

C & C always welcome. Photos are cropped only.


First of all, the hawk is so cool and your shots of it so excellent that let's take a breath there. Great photos.
Birdguide has it, or I believe is on the right track. Wow! dark variant Short-tailed Hawk. It is not a Marsh Hawk, no way, and not a cooper's hawk either. It is a Buteo, the genus of the Red-tailed Hawk. But like the Red-tailed hawk in the Americas the Buteos break the rules. They are much more like the tropical Hawk-Eagles. Do you have any idea how hard it is to catch a dove with your fee?

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Jan 12, 2013 06:02:01   #
Hando Rei Loc: Long Island New York
 
Agree with Bird guide ...light changes colors and often it is hard for identification purposes...but whatever it is...it is a nice shot .

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Jan 12, 2013 07:00:25   #
MagicFad Loc: Clermont, FL
 
Joyfullee wrote:
Hawk, not a great shot, but I got it! If anyone knows what kind of hawk this is, please let me know and thank you in advance.

Also a few others.

C & C always welcome. Photos are cropped only.

I believe it is a Sharp Shinned Hawk. They are smaller than the Red Shouldered and have the same barring on the tail as ones I have taken pictures of. They look quite different from the front as it is a mottled rust color and the underside of the tail feathers are grey. From the back it looks exactly right. I get a lot of GOOD information from; WhatBird.com. There is a search that gives a lot of criteria to input and it comes up with a list of birds that fit the description. Click the name and you get a picture and a page of info about the bird.

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Jan 12, 2013 07:13:48   #
richardh76 Loc: VT, Central, Champlain Valley
 
Joyfullee wrote:
Hawk, not a great shot, but I got it! If anyone knows what kind of hawk this is, please let me know and thank you in advance.

Also a few others.

C & C always welcome. Photos are cropped only.


I sort of agree with Birdguide, but the conundrum to me is the solid white on the face over the bill. I agree it is a dark phase, but of whom, a Harlan's? I don't thinks so. It doesn't fit an Accipiter. I sort of go with Short-tailed Hawk. Color, size and that Short-tails are aerial hunters. I don't think a Harlan's would go after a dove, but Short-tails would. Without a frontal view or shots of the underside of the bird it is tough to give a definitive ID. Just my 2 cents!
Richard

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Jan 12, 2013 08:24:50   #
Joyfullee Loc: South FL
 
gregoryd45 wrote:
Joyfullee wrote:
Hawk, not a great shot, but I got it! If anyone knows what kind of hawk this is, please let me know and thank you in advance.

Also a few others.

C & C always welcome. Photos are cropped only.


Great shots, Joyfullee, enjoyed them all. I think the hawk is a Coopers Hawk, great shot.


Thank you Gregory, always happy to hear from you. :-)

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Jan 12, 2013 08:27:36   #
Joyfullee Loc: South FL
 
MJL wrote:
To me it looks a lot like the female Sharp-shinned hawk that terrorizes our bird feeders. Doves are also her food of choice. Birdguide makes a good point, a frontal view of the bird would be very helpful for identification. Hopefully someone will come along with a positive ID for you.


Thanks for stopping to respond and for the info MJL, appreciated.

:-)

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Jan 12, 2013 08:28:32   #
Joyfullee Loc: South FL
 
Jayne wrote:
Google Short Tailed Hawk.....his wing tips reach tail tip. They are rare!


Appreciate the info Jayne and thanks for responding. :-)

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Jan 12, 2013 08:32:12   #
Joyfullee Loc: South FL
 
OC_DesertWalker wrote:
Joyfullee wrote:
Hawk, not a great shot, but I got it! If anyone knows what kind of hawk this is, please let me know and thank you in advance.

Also a few others.

C & C always welcome. Photos are cropped only.


First of all, the hawk is so cool and your shots of it so excellent that let's take a breath there. Great photos.
Birdguide has it, or I believe is on the right track. Wow! dark variant Short-tailed Hawk. It is not a Marsh Hawk, no way, and not a cooper's hawk either. It is a Buteo, the genus of the Red-tailed Hawk. But like the Red-tailed hawk in the Americas the Buteos break the rules. They are much more like the tropical Hawk-Eagles. Do you have any idea how hard it is to catch a dove with your fee?
quote=Joyfullee Hawk, not a great shot, but I got... (show quote)


Thank you for all the info OC_DesertWalker, very interesting. Appreciate you taking the time to respond. :-)

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Jan 12, 2013 08:33:20   #
Joyfullee Loc: South FL
 
Hando Rei wrote:
Agree with Bird guide ...light changes colors and often it is hard for identification purposes...but whatever it is...it is a nice shot .



Thank you Hando Rei, appreciate your comments. :-)

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Jan 12, 2013 08:35:09   #
Joyfullee Loc: South FL
 
MagicFad wrote:
Joyfullee wrote:
Hawk, not a great shot, but I got it! If anyone knows what kind of hawk this is, please let me know and thank you in advance.

Also a few others.

C & C always welcome. Photos are cropped only.

I believe it is a Sharp Shinned Hawk. They are smaller than the Red Shouldered and have the same barring on the tail as ones I have taken pictures of. They look quite different from the front as it is a mottled rust color and the underside of the tail feathers are grey. From the back it looks exactly right. I get a lot of GOOD information from; WhatBird.com. There is a search that gives a lot of criteria to input and it comes up with a list of birds that fit the description. Click the name and you get a picture and a page of info about the bird.
quote=Joyfullee Hawk, not a great shot, but I got... (show quote)


Appreciate all the info MagicFad and thanks for taking the time to respond. :-)

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Jan 12, 2013 08:37:54   #
Joyfullee Loc: South FL
 
richardh76 wrote:
Joyfullee wrote:
Hawk, not a great shot, but I got it! If anyone knows what kind of hawk this is, please let me know and thank you in advance.

Also a few others.

C & C always welcome. Photos are cropped only.


I sort of agree with Birdguide, but the conundrum to me is the solid white on the face over the bill. I agree it is a dark phase, but of whom, a Harlan's? I don't thinks so. It doesn't fit an Accipiter. I sort of go with Short-tailed Hawk. Color, size and that Short-tails are aerial hunters. I don't think a Harlan's would go after a dove, but Short-tails would. Without a frontal view or shots of the underside of the bird it is tough to give a definitive ID. Just my 2 cents!
Richard
quote=Joyfullee Hawk, not a great shot, but I got... (show quote)


Appreciate the info Richard and thanks for responding.
:-)

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Jan 12, 2013 08:45:40   #
rufus1 Loc: Winter Haven, Florida
 
Thinks it's a Short Tail common to South and Central Fl.

Great shots!

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Jan 12, 2013 09:06:33   #
Joyfullee Loc: South FL
 
rufus1 wrote:
Thinks it's a Short Tail common to South and Central Fl.

Great shots!


Thanks Rufus, appreciate the info! :-)

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Jan 12, 2013 09:21:19   #
Dixiegirl Loc: Alabama gulf coast
 
I guess I'll chime in and say I don't think it's a Coopers or Sharp-shinned. We have both of these hawks in our yard from time to time, and your hawk looks completely different from from any I've seen. Very good shots though, Doris.

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