indoor shooting: Have been reading and trying to learn how to shoot indoors. Shot ny friends wedding last Sat. Banquet room had some bright lighting and alot of dark also. Tried no...

sawdust3 Loc: Moline, Il 61265

Have been reading and trying to learn how to shoot indoors. Shot ny friends wedding last Sat. Banquet room had some bright lighting and alot of dark also. Tried no flash with a canon rebel, Tamron 28-75 f2.8 lense with iso at 1600 max for this camera. Not real good. pictures are very pixilated and fuzzy. How do you shoot in these conditions? Know this is vague. Will send a photo. used shutter speed 1/25

Croce Loc: Earth

Hi Sawdust, you need to give us more information. What Rebel are you shooting? 1600 is too high for quality photos indoors for most cameras. Even 400 may be high for some. If you are not using off camera flash chances are you will be disappointed. 1/25 of a second is very very slow for handheld shots with people in motion. What aperture were you using? Although you can shoot that lens at f2.8, the sharpest aperture is probably around f5.6 to f8. I hate to tell you this but it sounds like you need to learn the basic rudiments of what you are doing.

Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA

Croce wrote:

I hate to tell you this but it sounds like you need to learn the basic rudiments of what you are doing.

I think that's why he asked the question, who knows maybe that's what drew him to UHH. Responses like the above is what makes so many newbies and beginners afraid to ask questions. I apologize Croce but that response just hit me the wrong way. :-(

Croce Loc: Earth

Sorry Pepper, suck it up. It is impossible to give an answer to an open ended question like that without being frank. I was not being mean, I was being honest, the poor guy needs some very basic knowledge before he can assimilate the why of an answer to his problem. You are being overly sensitive and if you care to give psychiatric help rather than photographic help, the poor guy will never get off the ground. My opinion. Now it's your turn Pepper. Help the fellow take a better photo. :?

Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.

Like Croce suggested...use a faster shutter speed and lower the iso to mabe 800 and go from there, you'll see a big differnce in photo quality.

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

Fast lens. For me that's my 50 f2, 45 f1.8, or 20 f1.7. Crank the ISO upto 3200-6400 on my m4/3 body or 2500 iso on my e5. Steady hands and shoot lots. Fix the noise in Lightroom...if need be.

Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA

My point was not the construct of his question nor was it the intent of your response. My point is that your response was elitist and condescending. If there are assumptions to where one has to be in their photographic journey before they can ask questions Im not aware of them. One further point Id submit is that some need to learn how to ask questions and that too is something that we can (if we choose) help the beginner with. Rubbing your knowledge in the face of the newbie by making them feel small or inadequate is a far greater reflection on you than on them.As always JMHO.

Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business

With a max iso of 1600 I am willing to bet you are using an early rebel, maybe an xs. While a great starter dslr it has it's limits and you just found one. Low light is not this cameras friend. Coupled with a shutter speed of 1/25, you were asking for blurry, noisey images.

You need to find a way to up your shutter speed, while keeping your iso as low as possible, which of course leads us to a speed light.

Croce Loc: Earth

Pepper wrote:

My point was not the construct of his question nor... (show quote)

You know I'm offended by YOUR elitist pompous attitude. The man asked for help I gave him both a couple of good pointers and some solid advise. What did you offer him? NOTHING! You are a hipocrite. Go find yourself somewhere. If he was offended by my response or attitude I'm sure he is man enough to let me know. He does need your high and mighty, mighty mouse to the rescue attitude to intercede for him. You have no respect. Only an offending paternalistic attitude. Do you own a camera Pepper or just haunt the Chit Chat room?

Croce Loc: Earth

Annie_Girl wrote:

With a max iso of 1600 I am willing to bet you are using an early rebel, maybe an xs. While a great starter dslr it has it's limits and you just found one. Low light is not this cameras friend. Coupled with a shutter speed of 1/25, you were asking for blurry, noisey images.

You need to find a way to up your shutter speed, while keeping your iso as low as possible, which of course leads us to a speed light.

Good advice based on what we know Annie.

LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field

sawdust3 wrote:

Have been reading and trying to learn how to shoot indoors. Shot ny friends wedding last Sat. Banquet room had some bright lighting and alot of dark also. Tried no flash with a canon rebel, Tamron 28-75 f2.8 lense with iso at 1600 max for this camera. Not real good. pictures are very pixilated and fuzzy. How do you shoot in these conditions? Know this is vague. Will send a photo. used shutter speed 1/25

I'll give it a go. The attached image is grainy (due to high ISO) and appears to show movement due to the slow shutter speed indicated. As a general rule, the minimum shutter duration for shooting handheld (without image stabilization-don't believe this Tamron has that feature) is 1/over the focal length, or 1/75 shutter duration.

What to do: either a shoe-mounted flash with a diffuser OR better yet, an off-camera flash with diffusion. If the ceiling is white and low enough you can try bouncing the flash off the ceiling. The idea is to get your ISO down to 200-500 and the shutter duration to @ least 1/focal length of lens.

Does this help?

sawdust3 Loc: Moline, Il 61265

Thanks. will try that next time

sawdust3 Loc: Moline, Il 61265

Do have a speedlite. Did some with camera flash seemed to be better but not great. Seems was able to touch up some of these better when shooting raw.

JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK

Croce wrote:

Sorry Pepper, suck it up. It is impossible to give an answer to an open ended question like that without being frank. I was not being mean, I was being honest, the poor guy needs some very basic knowledge before he can assimilate the why of an answer to his problem. You are being overly sensitive and if you care to give psychiatric help rather than photographic help, the poor guy will never get off the ground. My opinion. Now it's your turn Pepper. Help the fellow take a better photo. :?

I have to agree with you, people are FAR too TOUCHY about others responses, this IS a forum and as long as a reply is not rude or lacking some advice my comment is LIVE with it.

God there is enough carp political correctness in the world without having to worry about what you have to say here unless it is offensive.

sawdust3 Loc: Moline, Il 61265

Canon xs. Intent of shooting was just people pics, no posing, just pics of people visiting and having a good.
Tried to not use flash on purpose so as not to annoy.
this room had horrible lighting, light under the can lites and dark where they were not. A horrible place to try to do anything. Depended where you were in room as to how dark. maybe. When raised shutter speed they got really dark with no flash and orange in color. Just learning, thanks Dennis, not offended, just trying to learn