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Jan 2, 2013 01:55:29   #
PhotoArtsLA Loc: Boynton Beach
 
To add to the humor, most images are "snapshots," and there are fewer "photographs" than most people would like to think.

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Jan 2, 2013 02:06:44   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Annie_Girl wrote:
Mine is when people complain about how people use terms that have been accepted and have been used for numerous years. Those that picked up photography in the digital era use the term bokeh, it's not going away. Join any other serious photography form and you will find it used without question. Make a statement referring to the use of the word as being lazy and refusing to learn proper language would start a nasty reply about being old and refusing to change with the times.


The use of glass has been used even long, I have heard many, many older photographers refer to their lenses as their glass. Actually the gentleman who leads one of photography club calls his lenses "glass", he is in his late70s.
Mine is when people complain about how people use ... (show quote)


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Jan 2, 2013 05:44:34   #
workhorse Loc: Nashville, TN
 
My comment is not meant to offend anyone. If you look at language from a sociological position, each group has its secret language and jargon which is used to protect the group and make it feel special. Members of the group, in good standing, speak rapidly using jargon so that outsiders will not be able to follow the conversation and gain knowledge of the group, thus, the group is kept safe from outside influences. Take the terms 'glass' and 'shot', both of these terms can mean so many different things but we use them to mean something specific which are not apparent to an outsider. I have run into a few snobs who use jargon just to impress people that they know something others do not know. There are few if any exceptions to this language problem and it is not likely to change.

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Jan 2, 2013 05:50:20   #
Take 5 Cinema Loc: Canoe BC
 
Big Egoes.
Seen too many people with a ton of gear, or maybe not and they think they are God's gift to the photography world. If you try to change their ways by introducing for example, movie mode and movie making using their DSLR's, they have an attitude that this club is not for movie makers - WE (where does this we shit come from) don't do your kind here.

Yuck squared. Run, don't walk from these naysayers,
Take 5

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Jan 2, 2013 06:01:28   #
Scoutman Loc: Orlando, FL
 
jerryc41 wrote:
buckwheat wrote:
In another thread someone mentioned "glass" as the worst affectation in terminology. I would like to know what other people think, because my pet peeve is referring to a photo as a "capture".
"Bokeh" is another one, and as the teenagers who are too lazy to learn the language take over, I'm sure it will get worse.
What is your peeve?

I think people are trying to avoid using the same words all the time. For example, we are stuck with "photography" and "photograph." They're big words to say and big words to type. I use photo, image, and pic frequently, just to break it up.

As for bokeh, that's a legitimate term that has a legitimate use, and some people care about it more than others.

"Glass" might seem like an affectation, but we all get the idea. Of course when you pay $2,000 for a lens, there is a lot more quality in there than just the glass itself, so it's not only the glass that produces a better image.

It's like car people calling a transmission a tranny, or calling a Corvette a Vette. It's shorthand used by people involved in the activity. One thing I don't understand is the compulsion to call an engine a motor. All the vehicle shows I watch on TV use "motor."

So, Im OK with all that photographic affectation.
quote=buckwheat In another thread someone mention... (show quote)


"One thing I don't understand is the compulsion to call an engine a motor."

I agree. That motor in my car is definitely an engine that may or may not run motors attached to it.

But think of the expense of changing the names of all those government agencies to "The Department of Engine Vehicles."

I want the change. I think I'll engine over to discuss it with whomever can authoize the change.

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Jan 2, 2013 06:37:00   #
Kinopless Loc: Mandurah, Western Australia
 
Bokeh wins hands down for the stupidest word in photography.. Looks stupid, sounds stupid.. No question.
Somebody please come up with something better.An acronym perhaps, a prize for the most creative.
I'll kick it off..POLOOF. Points Of Light Out Of Focus.. Your turn...

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Jan 2, 2013 06:51:12   #
krispix Loc: London - UK
 
buckwheat wrote:
What is your peeve?


What, like spelling Colour without a 'u'? Lol

Life's too short to get steamed up about silly little things like that, although there can be the odd misinterpretation from trans-pond language. Like to 'pop' something; In UK it means to 'Put' as in, "I popped the child on his bed." Whilst in the States it can have a very different connotation.

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Jan 2, 2013 07:08:45   #
skidooman Loc: Minnesota
 
Their, there, they're everyone,,,,the english language is safe and sound and used correctly by everyone :)

Back to the OP's question,,,,,,,,,the word shoot(ing). With the direction this world is headed,,it's a word I have been trying to eliminate from this photographer's vocabulary.

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Jan 2, 2013 07:15:19   #
skidooman Loc: Minnesota
 
Kinopless wrote:
Bokeh wins hands down for the stupidest word in photography.. Looks stupid, sounds stupid.. No question.
Somebody please come up with something better.An acronym perhaps, a prize for the most creative.
I'll kick it off..POLOOF. Points Of Light Out Of Focus.. Your turn...


Brilliant!! Now how many incorrect ways are there to say it??

Love that avatar :thumbup:

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Jan 2, 2013 07:38:12   #
Flash Falasca Loc: Beverly Hills, Florida
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Linda From Maine wrote:
No peeves, life's too short! But a question: what is the forum etiquette (UHH or other) regarding starting a new topic within someone else's topic? (OOOPS) :) :)

You might want to check the Rules for that. In reality, if you want an answer about tripods, and you post your question in a thread about lenses, you'll be missing most of your audience. Posting a question costs nothing, and it gives others a chance to respond if they have some knowledge in that area - or just want to make a wise crack.
quote=Linda From Maine No peeves, life's too shor... (show quote)


By tripods do you mean legs ?

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Jan 2, 2013 07:50:50   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
buckwheat wrote:
In another thread someone mentioned "glass" as the worst affectation in terminology. I would like to know what other people think, because my pet peeve is referring to a photo as a "capture".
"Bokeh" is another one, and as the teenagers who are too lazy to learn the language take over, I'm sure it will get worse.
What is your peeve?


Mine would have to be pop, as in "Photos that pop". It just seems overused.

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Jan 2, 2013 08:10:11   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
For a while now I've been thinking about suggesting a glossary for this site. Not only do they help to clarify the use of terminology, they can also be very effective learning tools, especially if the descriptions are not just clear but informative also.

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Jan 2, 2013 08:12:25   #
ph0t0bug
 
I'm not really here to learn the slang. I'm here to learn the camera and I don't really care what anyone calls what as long as I can understand what's being offered to help me.
Love you guys!

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Jan 2, 2013 08:24:59   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
buckwheat wrote:
In another thread someone mentioned "glass" as the worst affectation in terminology. I would like to know what other people think, because my pet peeve is referring to a photo as a "capture".
"Bokeh" is another one, and as the teenagers who are too lazy to learn the language take over, I'm sure it will get worse.
What is your peeve?

I think people are trying to avoid using the same words all the time. For example, we are stuck with "photography" and "photograph." They're big words to say and big words to type. I use photo, image, and pic frequently, just to break it up.

As for bokeh, that's a legitimate term that has a legitimate use, and some people care about it more than others.

"Glass" might seem like an affectation, but we all get the idea. Of course when you pay $2,000 for a lens, there is a lot more quality in there than just the glass itself, so it's not only the glass that produces a better image.

It's like car people calling a transmission a tranny, or calling a Corvette a Vette. It's shorthand used by people involved in the activity. One thing I don't understand is the compulsion to call an engine a motor. All the vehicle shows I watch on TV use "motor."

So, Im OK with all that photographic affectation.
quote=buckwheat In another thread someone mention... (show quote)


"Tranny" has another connotation...


;-)
quote=jerryc41 quote=buckwheat In another thread... (show quote)

Oooh, I was hoping that reference wouldn't come up.

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Jan 2, 2013 08:27:38   #
Clif Loc: Central Ca.
 
I just wish that people who are writing about any subject would spell out the few words that are the core of their topic. Far too many of the common two or three letter abbreviations are common in several other fields and I have to sort it out as I read. That breaks the flow of communication from writer to me as the reader. A practice that makes it easier on the writer but he takes a loss in the transfer of his thoughts and as he is writing to transfer his thoughts it seems he has failed to be as effective as he might otherwise be. But, what do I know.

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