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Dec 22, 2012 11:30:30   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
I don't understand why anti-gunners are clamoring for additional gun laws. The shooters in Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora and Sandy Hook all were mentally deranged individuals. They didn't give a damn about gun laws we now have. Do anti-gunners really believe more laws are going to change a psychopaths intent? If we have 10,000 gun laws some of them WILL still inflict their heinous crime on others. A simple fact is gun laws will not stop this individual. All additional gun laws will do is restrict even more the law abiding citizen from protecting their family, themselves and their property. What is needed is a system to identify and get mental help for these individuals before they go off the deep end.

Also, I believe the media is partly to blame. They keep going over and over and over the same stories which may help fuel the fire in some sick individuals into thinking I can do that and I'll get my moment of fame. The media is sensationalizing violence: stop!

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Dec 22, 2012 11:33:37   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
One of the intelligent posts I've seen.

Sarge69

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Dec 22, 2012 11:51:58   #
traveler90712 Loc: Lake Worth, Fl.
 
Huey Driver wrote:
I don't understand why anti-gunners are clamoring for additional gun laws. The shooters in Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora and Sandy Hook all were mentally deranged individuals. They didn't give a damn about gun laws we now have. Do anti-gunners really believe more laws are going to change a psychopaths intent? If we have 10,000 gun laws some of them WILL still inflict their heinous crime on others. A simple fact is gun laws will not stop this individual. All additional gun laws will do is restrict even more the law abiding citizen from protecting their family, themselves and their property. What is needed is a system to identify and get mental help for these individuals before they go off the deep end.

Also, I believe the media is partly to blame. They keep going over and over and over the same stories which may help fuel the fire in some sick individuals into thinking I can do that and I'll get my moment of fame. The media is sensationalizing violence: stop!
I don't understand why anti-gunners are clamoring ... (show quote)


More laws? Maybe to ban/outlaw automatic weapons. And the media is partially to blame. Hours and hours of repeating the same thing over and over again isn't necessary!

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Dec 22, 2012 12:00:29   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
Sorry but do your home work. Automatic weapons are banned unless you have a federal permit and the rules and restrictions that go along with that makes it undesirable for most folks to apply for one.

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Dec 22, 2012 12:28:45   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
You don't need gun laws just less nuts of all types wanting to own one

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Dec 22, 2012 12:31:22   #
traveler90712 Loc: Lake Worth, Fl.
 
Huey Driver wrote:
Sorry but do your home work. Automatic weapons are banned unless you have a federal permit and the rules and restrictions that go along with that makes it undesirable for most folks to apply for one.


The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB), or Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, was a subtitle of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a federal law in the United States that included a prohibition on the manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms, so called "assault weapons". The 10-year ban was passed by Congress on September 13, 1994, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment.

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired on September 13, 2004, as part of the law's sunset provision. There have been multiple attempts to renew the ban, but no bill has reached the floor for a vote. These bills are H.R. 2038, H.R. 3831, H.R. 5099, H.R. 1312, H.R. 1022, H.R. 6257.

State laws may include some automatic weapons bans, but if they do, it is by name of the weapon.

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Dec 23, 2012 06:08:51   #
robbygb Loc: UK
 
JR1 wrote:
You don't need gun laws just less nuts of all types wanting to own one


CORRECT!!!

Oop's, Here's JR1's Son with a gun!!!
Oop's, Here's JR1's Son with a gun!!!...

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Dec 23, 2012 06:58:47   #
artistwally Loc: Scotland
 
"In the United States, we had 9,000 people killed with guns last year” is the only figure I could find on Google; were they all killed by mentally deranged people Huey?

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Dec 23, 2012 07:22:12   #
workhorse Loc: Nashville, TN
 
[quote=traveler90712]
Huey Driver wrote:
I don't understand why anti-gunners are clamoring for additional gun laws. The shooters in Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora and Sandy Hook all were mentally deranged individuals. They didn't give a damn about gun laws we now have.

More laws? Maybe to ban/outlaw automatic weapons. And the media is partially to blame. Hours and hours of repeating the same thing over and over again isn't necessary!


Automatic weapons have been banned for years. It is the semi-automatic that they want to ban now. When the Automatic was banned they said they needed to keep them off the streets and out of the hands of the criminals. Those Thompsons were a real thread and I wouldn't own one because the amunition costs too much.

I really wish people would learn what they are talking about before they open their mouths and if they claim to know what they are talking about why are they calling things by the wrong name. If I call a bicycle a cycle (the short for motorcycle) does that give it an engine, no, but it does make it sound more powerful.

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Dec 23, 2012 07:54:03   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
artistwally wrote:
"In the United States, we had 9,000 people killed with guns last year” is the only figure I could find on Google; were they all killed by mentally deranged people Huey?


According to the Brookings Institute we have approximately 300 major state and federal gun laws on the books now. In my search for the number of gun deaths last year the numbers go from 10,000 to 20,000 with the CDC putting the total around 10,900. The state with some of the most restrictive anti-gun laws, California, led the pack with just over 1,700 gun deaths.

These numbers are shocking but let me ask you a question: Isn't murder against the law? Do we not have a number of state, federal, and moral laws forbidding the killing of another human by any means? Why do we still have murders?

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Dec 23, 2012 09:40:44   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
In 2010 there were 32,885 US fatalities in automobiles. 10,228 were alcohol related. Guess we need to ban booze and automobiles? Oh I forgot we already have laws in place about DUI's. Pretty plain to me that the laws against drinking and driving are not working. We need to have more laws.

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Dec 23, 2012 10:35:04   #
Reddog Loc: Southern Calif
 
Huey Driver wrote:
I don't understand why anti-gunners are clamoring for additional gun laws. The shooters in Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora and Sandy Hook all were mentally deranged individuals. They didn't give a damn about gun laws we now have. Do anti-gunners really believe more laws are going to change a psychopaths intent? If we have 10,000 gun laws some of them WILL still inflict their heinous crime on others. A simple fact is gun laws will not stop this individual. All additional gun laws will do is restrict even more the law abiding citizen from protecting their family, themselves and their property. What is needed is a system to identify and get mental help for these individuals before they go off the deep end.

Also, I believe the media is partly to blame. They keep going over and over and over the same stories which may help fuel the fire in some sick individuals into thinking I can do that and I'll get my moment of fame. The media is sensationalizing violence: stop!
I don't understand why anti-gunners are clamoring ... (show quote)
Lets not talk about it! thats what the NRA wants. We have more guns per capita than any other Country 89 per 100 people and the solution is more guns? Lets become a Police state armed guards in every school, than armed guards in every park and armed guards on every corner. Lets arm the students while we are at it. Shame on the NRA for what they have become, stooges of the gun manufacturers!

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Dec 23, 2012 10:56:07   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
I am a life memeber of the NRA but I don't think their answer to the latest shooting was a very well thought out response. Let us have more gun laws, that's the only answer. Give me a break! As if that's going to fix anything? That's not solving the problem it's just white washing it.

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Dec 23, 2012 11:34:22   #
Reddog Loc: Southern Calif
 
No huey, of coarse thats not the only answer and it won't stop all the killings, but we have to start somewhere! Lets ban weapons that can kill dozens of people in a few minutes without reloading or something similar, lets have serious conversations and not just more guns are the solution!
Huey Driver wrote:
I am a life memeber of the NRA but I don't think their answer to the latest shooting was a very well thought out response. Let us have more gun laws, that's the only answer. Give me a break! As if that's going to fix anything? That's not solving the problem it's just white washing it.

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Dec 23, 2012 12:08:22   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
Guess we are going to have to ban shotguns as well. Loaded with buckshot they can kill a bunch in a hurry. Your comment concerns me. "we have to start somewhere". That's what all the pro gun folks and the NRA are worried about. You'll never stop.

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