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Jan 3, 2013 10:27:09   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
francesca3 wrote:
Annie_Girl wrote:
francesca3 wrote:
Considering all of the above advice, I wonder if anyone has considered the fine print with these sites. Many of them claim ownership of photos posted via their site(s), and/or the right to publish, sell, etc. those photos.

Flickr among them, I believe.

Why would anyone so easily give away their legal rights to their photos?

Maybe I am wrong.


I'm sorry you are incorrect. Flickr does NOT claim ownership of images posted on their site and users do NOT give up their rights to their photos.

The TOS for flickr state:

Quote:
Yahoo! does not claim ownership of Content you submit or make available for inclusion on the Yahoo! Services. However, with respect to Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services, you grant Yahoo! the following worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive license(s)


which means they can use your images to promote Flickr for free (a trade-off for using the free service) but can not sell them or claim copyright.

Have you looked at the TOS for this site? It's not as clearly written.

Quote:
OWNERSHIP OF WEBSITE OR RIGHT TO USE, SELL, PUBLISH CONTENTS OF THIS WEBSITE

The website and its contents are owned or licensed by the website. Material contained on the website must be presumed to be proprietary and copyrighted. Visitors have no rights whatsoever in the site content. Use of website content for any reason is unlawful unless it is done with express contract or permission of the website.


it's written that it seems this site can claim ownership of images posted here.
quote=francesca3 Considering all of the above adv... (show quote)


OK, so, Flickr does not usurp ownership of one's photos, but it does appear that they can use them as they wish (not just for promotional purposes), which is tantamount to ownership/copyright.
Question: In your quoting of the "TOS" is that from Flickr? If so, it does look like a claim of ownership.
quote=Annie_Girl quote=francesca3 Considering al... (show quote)



My second quote showing the TOS that is so poorly written that it could legally claim ownership of any images posted is from THIS website (uglyhedge.com)

flickr 's tos states they can use your images only to promote flickr or yahoo as whole. they can not sell my images or change them in anyway, this includes cropping or removing watermarks.

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Jan 3, 2013 11:48:00   #
francesca3 Loc: Sausalito, CA
 
Annie_Girl wrote:
francesca3 wrote:
Annie_Girl wrote:
francesca3 wrote:
Considering all of the above advice, I wonder if anyone has considered the fine print with these sites. Many of them claim ownership of photos posted via their site(s), and/or the right to publish, sell, etc. those photos.

Flickr among them, I believe.

Why would anyone so easily give away their legal rights to their photos?

Maybe I am wrong.


I'm sorry you are incorrect. Flickr does NOT claim ownership of images posted on their site and users do NOT give up their rights to their photos.

The TOS for flickr state:

Quote:
Yahoo! does not claim ownership of Content you submit or make available for inclusion on the Yahoo! Services. However, with respect to Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services, you grant Yahoo! the following worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive license(s)


which means they can use your images to promote Flickr for free (a trade-off for using the free service) but can not sell them or claim copyright.

Have you looked at the TOS for this site? It's not as clearly written.

Quote:
OWNERSHIP OF WEBSITE OR RIGHT TO USE, SELL, PUBLISH CONTENTS OF THIS WEBSITE

The website and its contents are owned or licensed by the website. Material contained on the website must be presumed to be proprietary and copyrighted. Visitors have no rights whatsoever in the site content. Use of website content for any reason is unlawful unless it is done with express contract or permission of the website.


it's written that it seems this site can claim ownership of images posted here.
quote=francesca3 Considering all of the above adv... (show quote)


OK, so, Flickr does not usurp ownership of one's photos, but it does appear that they can use them as they wish (not just for promotional purposes), which is tantamount to ownership/copyright.
Question: In your quoting of the "TOS" is that from Flickr? If so, it does look like a claim of ownership.
quote=Annie_Girl quote=francesca3 Considering al... (show quote)



My second quote showing the TOS that is so poorly written that it could legally claim ownership of any images posted is from THIS website (uglyhedge.com)

flickr 's tos states they can use your images only to promote flickr or yahoo as whole. they can not sell my images or change them in anyway, this includes cropping or removing watermarks.
quote=francesca3 quote=Annie_Girl quote=frances... (show quote)


OMGosh ---> thanks for the clarification. I retract my negative Flickr statement.
As for UHH, another OMG.
What is up with that?
UHH needs to clarify its position....I wonder if the UHH members are aware of this.
)))

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