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Oct 30, 2011 23:56:17   #
Kits Loc: SF Bay Area
 
I think one should ask before taking pictures of someone else's kids. It protects the photographer and the model. Should you see that photo of your child published, you have the right to compensation and/or withdrawal of the image.

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Oct 31, 2011 00:20:39   #
seaside7
 
MWAC wrote:
Opal wrote:
I would have a big problem with this. The photographer should have asked you for permission and informed you of their intent. I was always under the impression that pictures taken of people required a release to be signed (or is that more etiquette than requirement?)


Actually a Model Release is only required if you are going to sell the photo, you can take the photo and I beleive even display the photo on your website without a model release. You have no expectation of privacy if you are in public.

Now would I do this, ohh H-E-double hockey sticks I wouldn't. There is no way I would take a picture of a strangers child and I'm trying to think of what my DH's reaction would be if he saw someone take a picture of one of our children ... ya it wouldn't be pretty.
quote=Opal I would have a big problem with this. ... (show quote)


If you do not get a release and you so much as post this in any form on the computer, you are leaving yourself open for a major lawsuit. And they will win. Only exception is the press, and they take names and ok it with you anyway.
Be careful who and what you photograph out there.

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Oct 31, 2011 01:25:34   #
alann Loc: Virginia
 
If you do not get a release and you so much as post this in any form on the computer, you are leaving yourself open for a major lawsuit. And they will win. Only exception is the press, and they take names and ok it with you anyway.
Be careful who and what you photograph out there.

Could you please provide your source of information on the above "facts"?

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Oct 31, 2011 01:38:09   #
Elle Loc: Long Island, NY
 
I do not believe there is legal grounds for posting a picture online that was taken in a public place. You may be requested to take it down or have it taken down for you if the service receives a complaint but a lawsuit is doubtful unless its used for a commercial purpose.

I have a video clip taken at an event where the performer had a potentially dangerous mishap. Mine was the only record of the happening and it had been posted on Utube. I was first contacted by one member of the troupe asking me to take it down because it was embarrassing to the performer. I did. I was contacted again by a senior member of the troupe to reinstate it because spectators at the event were concerned and the clip showed the performer walking away from the accident. My response was that the performer himself should contact me and I would follow his wishes. The clip has remained sheved because I did not hear from him..but I made sure he received a copy of the clip.

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Oct 31, 2011 01:43:03   #
DaveG Loc: High Ridge, Missouri, USA
 
MOST definitely!!! As a father of 5 and 2 of which are twins. I think if someone is going to take pictures of my kids I want to know why and who they are, BEFORE they take the picture.

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Oct 31, 2011 02:09:17   #
jolly1
 
seaside7 wrote:
MWAC wrote:
Opal wrote:
I would have a big problem with this. The photographer should have asked you for permission and informed you of their intent. I was always under the impression that pictures taken of people required a release to be signed (or is that more etiquette than requirement?)


Actually a Model Release is only required if you are going to sell the photo, you can take the photo and I beleive even display the photo on your website without a model release. You have no expectation of privacy if you are in public.

Now would I do this, ohh H-E-double hockey sticks I wouldn't. There is no way I would take a picture of a strangers child and I'm trying to think of what my DH's reaction would be if he saw someone take a picture of one of our children ... ya it wouldn't be pretty.
quote=Opal I would have a big problem with this. ... (show quote)


If you do not get a release and you so much as post this in any form on the computer, you are leaving yourself open for a major lawsuit. And they will win. Only exception is the press, and they take names and ok it with you anyway.
Be careful who and what you photograph out there.
quote=MWAC quote=Opal I would have a big problem... (show quote)


To the writer of this last paragraph: I'll bet you believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy too.

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Oct 31, 2011 04:46:17   #
George H Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
seaside7 wrote:
MWAC wrote:
Opal wrote:
I would have a big problem with this. The photographer should have asked you for permission and informed you of their intent. I was always under the impression that pictures taken of people required a release to be signed (or is that more etiquette than requirement?)


Actually a Model Release is only required if you are going to sell the photo, you can take the photo and I beleive even display the photo on your website without a model release. You have no expectation of privacy if you are in public.

Now would I do this, ohh H-E-double hockey sticks I wouldn't. There is no way I would take a picture of a strangers child and I'm trying to think of what my DH's reaction would be if he saw someone take a picture of one of our children ... ya it wouldn't be pretty.
quote=Opal I would have a big problem with this. ... (show quote)


If you do not get a release and you so much as post this in any form on the computer, you are leaving yourself open for a major lawsuit. And they will win. Only exception is the press, and they take names and ok it with you anyway.
Be careful who and what you photograph out there.
quote=MWAC quote=Opal I would have a big problem... (show quote)


Sir,
I would tell you to learn the law, you do not know what your talking about.

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Oct 31, 2011 08:28:53   #
DSLRChuck Loc: Wisconsin
 
Again folks. Let's get real here. Pics are taken ALL the time in public with kids in them, and they aren't finding out who the parents are prior to taking the pic. I think you all know this is the case. Your kids and others. Even you who say you always ask first and shoot later are yanking my chain and your own. Go to a school event, shoot pics of your kids and grand kids. Then later look at your pics. I'll bet you have lots of kids in your pics next to and around your kids who you don't even know who the parents are much less even asking their permission to take their pic. I'm not saying it's wrong to ask first, but let's be real here, and honest.

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Oct 31, 2011 08:54:19   #
emrob62 Loc: NEPA
 
Chuck, While I agreet hat at school functions, recitals or even a park outing you will definitely end up with other kids and people in your shots, the scenario described is quite different. The uninvited photographer deliberatley took pictures of this guys family. There is a big differnance, and permission and /or an explantion, introduction eetc. should have proceded the pointing of the camera.
We had a situation years ago while visiting Niagara Falls that took us so completely by surprise that we didn't know how to react. We had my three yr old by a rail overlooking the falls for a photo when all of a sudden a group of Japanese(Asian) tourist came by and got into the picture with her while their camera guy took some pics. As quickly as they came they turned, bowed and wolked away with smiles from all of them.
Still don't know what that was all about.

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Oct 31, 2011 09:26:47   #
DSLRChuck Loc: Wisconsin
 
emrob62 wrote:
Chuck, While I agreet hat at school functions, recitals or even a park outing you will definitely end up with other kids and people in your shots, the scenario described is quite different. The uninvited photographer deliberatley took pictures of this guys family. There is a big differnance, and permission and /or an explantion, introduction eetc. should have proceded the pointing of the camera.
We had a situation years ago while visiting Niagara Falls that took us so completely by surprise that we didn't know how to react. We had my three yr old by a rail overlooking the falls for a photo when all of a sudden a group of Japanese(Asian) tourist came by and got into the picture with her while their camera guy took some pics. As quickly as they came they turned, bowed and wolked away with smiles from all of them.
Still don't know what that was all about.
Chuck, While I agreet hat at school functions, rec... (show quote)


Yes, you are correct. The situation per this discussion is quite different. However, my point is that we are over blowing this issue. If the perp has bad intentions, it is doubtful that they would ask, or even be seen getting the pic. And if they would ask, and had bad intentions, you would never know this. If you say OK, they may have bad motives. If you say no, No pic taken, no problem. The bad guys know this and steel the pic, and most likely, the parents are unaware of the whole thing. My point is that you can't control this as parents unless you keep your kids out of the public. Like I said, most folks are just being PC. IMHO.

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Oct 31, 2011 09:36:57   #
emrob62 Loc: NEPA
 
Well, then for that I do agree with you. Taking all possibilities into consideration it is impossible to prevent the capturing of you or your kids image by people with various intentions, whether they be for good or evil.

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Oct 31, 2011 09:39:12   #
keithsmom Loc: Paradise found
 
1. there have been far to many deviations from the original question. the answer should be quite simple..
the photographer should politely discuss with the parent as to the intended use, show the photo, ask for approval to use and also GIVE a copy to the parent OR totally remove the photo and perhaps apologize.
common sense and common courtesy should prevail.
2.MyronT: the interjection of Guns, the right to carry, etc. has absolutely no bearing on the original question and is totally out of place as is his last statement;
my jaw dropped when I read this post!

"In Colorado is it still legal to shoot someone who is Mormon?"
(I live in Colorado, and as far as I know. it is illegal to shoot anyone except in a case of self defense either here or anywhere else in the USA!)

maybe he should clarify the statement as to the meaning of "shoot" ?
and why single out a MORMON?
or perhaps he should just learn to think before opening his mouth and inserting his foot while typing and hitting the send button.!
I for one, think this discussion is over and done..
let's move onto something more constructive.
Loui&#9829;





In Colorado is it still legal to shoot someone who is Mormon?

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Oct 31, 2011 09:45:41   #
DSLRChuck Loc: Wisconsin
 
emrob62 wrote:
Well, then for that I do agree with you. Taking all possibilities into consideration it is impossible to prevent the capturing of you or your kids image by people with various intentions, whether they be for good or evil.


I guess my main point is that it's my responsibility to protect my kids, not some random photographers to ask permission. It's OK, nice, and respectful. But to condone a Parent in having a meltdown, and lash out at the big bad nasty photographer for taking their kids pic in public is the thing that's really wrong here. Parents, when in public with your kids, ALWAYS keep them covered with a blanket so no disrespectful photographer can get there pic. OR, punch and smash as necessary. LOL

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Oct 31, 2011 09:47:37   #
keithsmom Loc: Paradise found
 
PS: regarding photographing kids at school..
I asked permission to photograph my grandson at pre-school while he was participating in various activities..
I was given a stern NO..citing privacy of the other children,
I was allowed to photograph him in the room, with only his teacher in the photo. after the session, she reviewed the photos, gave me her email address so we could share.
the same rules applied at outdoor activity time..
there was no problem with the graduation events..and most parents were happily clicking away for pics of their kids and their friends..
as stated above..
common sense and courtesy most often will prevail in getting the photos you seek..
thanks..
Loui&#9829;

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Oct 31, 2011 09:51:13   #
alann Loc: Virginia
 
This thread is getting to be very entertaining. :)

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