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Dec 3, 2012 09:08:59   #
jimbo70 Loc: Orange Park, FL.
 
robert-photos wrote:
In your group photos do you include the feet and lower body of the subjects and why?

Should be an interesting discussion. :P


The rule for groups is either full length (includes the feet) or 3/4 which is cut off above the knees (at least half way between the knees and crotch). Never cut (crop) between the knees and the ground.

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Dec 3, 2012 09:33:14   #
photophly Loc: Old Bridge NJ
 
Depends entirely on the pose and the situation.

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Dec 3, 2012 09:50:05   #
Bill gomberg
 
Look at Rembrandt's " Syndics of The Cloth Guild And his Night Watch . Compare the two and see if that helps you decide .

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Dec 3, 2012 10:17:58   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
I do both. With a Zoom no Problem. Some times you need to filp for vertical to horazontal. We used to say Films cheap. Dave

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Dec 3, 2012 10:35:14   #
billwassmann Loc: Emerson, NJ
 
I tell my students to include the feet or else make the cutoff at the upper thigh, mid-section or chest. Cutting the shot in the ankle area is visually disturbing.

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Dec 3, 2012 10:47:14   #
GINNYlaprint
 
I like to give my subjects a leg up

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Dec 3, 2012 11:01:12   #
Nessguide Loc: Montreal,Canada
 
I just went to the Annie Leibovitz master collection exhibit while visiting in Columbus...don't miss it if you live in the area..
She breaks all rules of classic composition in many of her images..talk about cutting off arms and legs etc....it was a stunning compilation of handpicked work and so there you go..eye of the beholder.
I have no doubt those images were very carefully created though,and it was art photography.

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Dec 3, 2012 11:02:37   #
Armadillo Loc: Ventura, CA
 
lighthouse wrote:
Most of the time.
Because it is usually connected to their torso.


Lighthouse,

It is all about "Composition" within the image you capture. It seems best to include the feet simply because it is an integral part of the subjects body. It is more important to not cut the feet off at the ankles. This translates to cut tin off the legs at the knees,chopping the girls body off at the hips, chopping the hands off at the wrists, chopping the arms off at the elbows, and cutting the head off at the shoulders.

It leaves a very uncomfortable, and painful reaction with the person viewing the image. If the final product will not allow the full capture of the body, then it is permissible to crop between these extreme body parts. Keep in mind the object in capturing Human subjects is to capture them with the best flattering images possible under the photographic conditions. Making your subjects feel happy and good about their appearance is just as important as getting the exposure correct.

Michael G

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Dec 3, 2012 11:02:40   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
robert-photos wrote:
In your group photos do you include the feet and lower body of the subjects and why?

Should be an interesting discussion. :P


I personally try to get the group to almost fill the horizontal plane of the composition and that usually ends up being mostly waist up or thigh up depending on the size of the group. But if a woman is, or a group of women are, dressed to the hilt, they'll want their properly coordinated shoes to show in the photos. Same with a wedding group unless you're in the Appalachian mountains and they're wearing muddy work boots or waders.

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Dec 3, 2012 11:03:28   #
Photographer Jim Loc: Rio Vista, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
robert-photos wrote:
In your group photos do you include the feet and lower body of the subjects and why?

Should be an interesting discussion. :P

Include feet in the U. S. and meters in the UK.


OK, Made me smile. :)

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Dec 3, 2012 11:16:35   #
GINNYlaprint
 
I like to give my subjects a leg up

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Dec 3, 2012 11:23:54   #
arjty
 
All ways of photographing a group are OK. But when I see an amateur photo of a group with the heads in the middle and a lot of sky or whatever is behind them and then they are cut off at the knees, I know that the photographer has no sense of composition, is not really looking at what he is 'snapping.'

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Dec 3, 2012 12:00:39   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
I definitely include the feet if the viewers include someone with a foot fetish

robert-photos wrote:
In your group photos do you include the feet and lower body of the subjects and why?

Should be an interesting discussion. :P

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Dec 3, 2012 12:16:34   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
Depends on what the feet look like...I have seen some ugly ones in flip flops (not mine of course).

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Dec 3, 2012 12:33:19   #
Nevada Chuck
 
I seem to recall reading a conpositional "rule" somewhere that the framing of the shot shouldn't cut through a joint (knees and elbows being the worst victims of ill-advised cropping), and that hands shown below the waist should be shown palms down.

Is this still considered a rule? I don't know. I guess doing an informal survey of what we see in print might help to answer the question.

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