Microsoft is going to get away from x86??
Mar 31, 2024 09:16:38 #
I heard MS is going to release future Windows OS that support the ARMS processor and perhaps they would gradually not supporting the x86 processors any more? They try to copy Apple??
Mar 31, 2024 09:33:15 #
OR, supporting ARMS in addition to x86.......
(As long as we're doing suppositions.)
Lots of x86 based systems out there.
(As long as we're doing suppositions.)
Lots of x86 based systems out there.
Mar 31, 2024 10:04:34 #
Longshadow wrote:
OR, supporting ARMS in addition to x86.......
(As long as we're doing suppositions.)
Lots of x86 based systems out there.
(As long as we're doing suppositions.)
Lots of x86 based systems out there.
Well in the beginning it's supporting ARMS in addition. In fact Microsoft Windows 10 and 11 already have version for the ARMS processor. Microsoft is selling ARMS based PC too.
Mar 31, 2024 10:23:18 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Well in the beginning it's supporting ARMS in addition. In fact Microsoft Windows 10 and 11 already have version for the ARMS processor. Microsoft is selling ARMS based PC too.
I imagine time will tell,
not suppositions.
Mar 31, 2024 10:24:53 #
Longshadow wrote:
I imagine time will tell,
not suppositions.
not suppositions.
Just thinking if they do that then they go the way of the Apple which I don't like.
Mar 31, 2024 15:41:00 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I heard MS is going to release future Windows OS that support the ARMS processor and perhaps they would gradually not supporting the x86 processors any more? They try to copy Apple??
They already support ARM. Windows for ARM officially runs on the new Macs with Parallels Desktop.
Mar 31, 2024 16:52:53 #
burkphoto wrote:
They already support ARM. Windows for ARM officially runs on the new Macs with Parallels Desktop.
Bad news. They went the way of the Apple.
Mar 31, 2024 17:38:44 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Bad news. They went the way of the Apple.
No, it’s still Windows.
Mar 31, 2024 17:52:49 #
burkphoto wrote:
No, it’s still Windows.
But the PC can no longer run DOS (of course it can with emulation but not native)
Mar 31, 2024 18:11:37 #
BebuLamar wrote:
But the PC can no longer run DOS (of course it can with emulation but not native)
So?
Emulator not good?
Mar 31, 2024 18:13:22 #
Longshadow wrote:
So?
Emulator not good?
Emulator not good?
I actually use emulator a lot but I like to be able to run things without emulator.
Mar 31, 2024 18:16:27 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I actually use emulator a lot but I like to be able to run things without emulator.
Be glad you can do what you do?
DOS is kinda dead. Attrition.
What would be the benefit of running applications without an emulator?
Mar 31, 2024 18:35:53 #
TheShoe
Loc: Lacey, WA
Longshadow wrote:
Be glad you can do what you do?
DOS is kinda dead. Attrition.
What would be the benefit of running applications without an emulator?
DOS is kinda dead. Attrition.
What would be the benefit of running applications without an emulator?
The application needs to be ported to the native architecture to run without using an emulator. They probably run a bit slower when emulated instead of native.
Mar 31, 2024 18:45:45 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I actually use emulator a lot but I like to be able to run things without emulator.
Windows 11 running in Parallels Desktop on an Apple Silicon Mac runs faster than most laptop PCs... Of course, you have to run software that will run on ARM, one way or another. That's a bit limiting for some applications. But if you need it...
PCs that run on next gen ARM hardware will be faster and better in many ways than x86 PCs.
x86 is a power hog. PC graphics cards are also Watt-thirsty. RISC architecture should reduce power consumption and improve speed and efficiency.
The transition should be RELATIVELY smooth, if long and drawn out. Apple moved to RISC in 2020. In nine months, over 90% of Mac users were happy with it. That's when I bought in. There were a few hiccups, but no show stoppers for me. Now all is running smoothly. Some software never got converted because the market moved on. Other software got re-engineered completely, because it was time to change the paradigm. Most software evolved in tandem on both x86 and Apple Silicon platforms, although new features are sometimes impossible to support on Intel Macs.
Mar 31, 2024 18:48:56 #
Longshadow wrote:
Be glad you can do what you do?
DOS is kinda dead. Attrition.
What would be the benefit of running applications without an emulator?
DOS is kinda dead. Attrition.
What would be the benefit of running applications without an emulator?
Perhaps for the fun of it. Actually in many cases the emulator works better and for something like DOS at a certain CPU speed you see no more speed gain. For example, when using DOS in an emulator I can load device drivers in high memory and have a larger conventional memory. Some programs need almost all of the conventional memory to run well (the 640K area). One of them is the First Publisher software, you can't install a lot of fonts if you're short on conventional memory. On the real PC because the new PC now has a lot of hardware that mapped to the high memory area so there isn't sufficient free address space in that are to load the device driver.
One thing though. I tried a lot of emulator from the Virtual PC from Microsoft to Virtual Box from Oracle and VMWare none can run Lotus 123 Release 2.3 in WYSIWYG mode. The display messed up. The text disappapears. In the real PC it works fine.
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