davids999 wrote:
SteveR wrote:
"Prior to the Normans, single names were used, i.e. John of Wexley. The Normans insisted on surnames."
Thay had to. An army of 10,000 Normans assembled for the invasion. What a roll call that must have been :)
The Roman army had it's problems too, one of them trying to call cadence ...hut II, III, IV.
lateron wrote:
SteveR wrote:
If the Saxonsw had defeated the Normans, you wouldn't have all your castles, the Royalty, the Queen. The Land would never have been gobbled up by nobility. You might truly have been something other than European. You would have had individual land owners rather than Lord rent collectors.
Not true:
Historically, the Normans only built so many castles to defend themselves from the Saxons! We had kings and queens prior to the Norman invasion, (incidently, the Only time the French have won!!)
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Without primogeniture, however, the large estates never would have developed.
SteveR wrote:
If the Saxonsw had defeated the Normans, you wouldn't have all your castles, the Royalty, the Queen. The Land would never have been gobbled up by nobility. You might truly have been something other than European. You would have had individual land owners rather than Lord rent collectors.
SteveR... OK... hold it there! I get it!
... Took me a while but I got ya now .. and there we are fellow Brits... for many many years us British didn't think that you Americans had any sense of humor .... maybe were were wrong on that one ... maybe... (but, there's no way of explaining Red Skelton) ...
Your a good conversationalist but your trying to wind us up .... right ? either that or your bored senseless.. :roll:
rayford2 wrote:
"The Roman army had it's problems too, one of them trying to call cadence ...hut II, III, IV."
:) :)
treslek wrote:
go read my post before commenting the british isle,s have never been invaded since the last time we were invaded with success in 1066 .but of course your going to tell me different as in jersey during ww2 .we are also one of the few countries still holding a triple aaa credit rating granted im not sure how but we are ,oh and yes this suprised me too but last week we were quoted as being the nation with more power than any other and yes it did surprise me but looking back on history etc etc i can see how they arrive at that conclusion .the falklands (british) accordingly have more than enough oil to keep us up there with the other,s hence why argentina are raking up old ground but i always thought thatcher and her crew knew something we didn't and now it would seem she was right.
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Margaret was right about everything ...
SteveR wrote:
rt1379 wrote:
Hey SteveR..
just as a matter of interest .... what is your main language ... ?
Hope its not English because that could make YOU European by your reckoning! ... :shock:
Actually, during our American Rebellion, we cast off the European forms and structures. No kings, no Lords, no knights....and no political power of church over state. Everybody born here is of equal standing....at least once we got rid of that sinful thing called slavery.
So what is your main language ?? not American ...
rt1379 wrote:
SteveR wrote:
rt1379 wrote:
Hey SteveR..
just as a matter of interest .... what is your main language ... ?
Hope its not English because that could make YOU European by your reckoning! ... :shock:
Actually, during our American Rebellion, we cast off the European forms and structures. No kings, no Lords, no knights....and no political power of church over state. Everybody born here is of equal standing....at least once we got rid of that sinful thing called slavery.
So what is your main language ?? not American ...
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It's English. What does that prove? Every fiefdom in Europe has its own language. Every shire in England had its own dialect.
PNagy
Loc: Missouri City, Texas
rt1379 wrote:
.. I was just reading a few of the posts in this section ...
Interesting to see that some of you folks see us Brits as living in "Europe" !!!!
well...NOT this one! !!! ... europe is on the right of the United Kingdom as you look at the map .... its where Europeans live! ... The UK is the island in the Atlantic... next to europe (small e) but not attached ...
Any of you Brits in here consider yourselves European ? ... ..just asking! :hunf:
According to linguistic conventions a major island or island group is considered to be part of the continent to which it is nearly contiguous.
Ha!! I just love those Linguistic Conventions. At the 25th Convention of International Linguists, we had a blast listening to Asian conventioneers pronounce French phonemes after five boilermakers.
Well I am a Northumbrian first, English second, British third and European fourth. But actually we Brits are all legally "citizens of the European Union" and all the tattered flag waving in the world won't make any difference to that unless/until we leave the European Union.
As I think I have said before, we Brits are not CITIZENS of the UK but we are BRITISH SUBJECTS i.e. subjects of Her Majesty The Queen. And that's how we will stay whether in or out of Europe.
Well I am a Northumbrian first, English second, British third and European fourth. But actually we Brits are all legally "citizens of the European Union" and all the tattered flag waving in the world won't make any difference to that unless/until we leave the European Union.
As I think I have said before, we Brits are not CITIZENS of the UK but we are BRITISH SUBJECTS i.e. subjects of Her Majesty The Queen. And that's how we will stay whether in or out of Europe.
As long as the English boil their meat they will never amount to anything so they can stay in their island and proclaim all they want. Then again they do not hop like the frogs.
Monty Python is the true expression of the British humor. It not for nothing that you find the same wacky sketches in Fawlty Towers...
http://x2t.com/EW Must see German episode that mention the lack of understanding
http://x2t.com/1/EW (time 1:28 - You have absolutely no sense of humor')
Lucian
Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
SteveR wrote:
" I guess the Brits definitely wanted a piece of Europe even if they didn't feel European. Bottom line, they were definitely involved with European politics. Can't get away from it. That makes you European."
What a load of crap SteveR (no disrespect meant) with such stupid reasoning that makes you lot (Yanks) all Japanese because you fought the Japs and won in WW II. The Americans get involved with all sorts of coutry's politics so by your reasonong that should make you Iraqis, Syrians, Vietnamese and a load more.
SteveR let me set you straight, any country (A) getting involved in another country's (B/C etc) politics, does not make that country (A) now country B or C etc. They are still country A.
Also the British traveled around the world and took control of many far off lands over the centuries. By your reasoning that should have also made the British, Indians because we ruled India in the past too. Hopefully you can see how silly a statement it was for you to make.
Lucian
Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
English Wolf wrote:
"As long as the English boil their meat they will never amount to anything so they can stay in their island and proclaim all they want...."
You Americans boil your meat too, there are numerous stews you make where you boil your meat, there are plenty of BBQ rib recipes that call for boiling the rib meat first, so by your own doing, you too shall never amount to anything and why are you bothering to comment when you willfully call yourself "English Wolf"?
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