Border Security vs. The Politics of Border Security: A bill is currently being negotiated between President Biden and REPUBLICANS in the Senate which would provide the most significant...

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

A bill is currently being negotiated between President Biden and REPUBLICANS in the Senate which would provide the most significant border reform in decades in exchange for aid to Ukraine. This bill has the support of staunch conservative REPUBLICANS in the Senate such as Lyndsay Graham, John Thune, Dan Crenshaw, etc. Trump and REPUBLICANS in the House oppose this bill which would give our country increased border security because they would rather rant about the lack of border security than improve border security while Biden is President. Rep. Dan Crenshaw, (REPUBLICAN, Texas), accused REPUBLICANS in the house of wanting "Russia to win more than you want border policy changes".

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Crenshaw is probably right. The only thing holding the GOP together right now is h**e for our republic and a driving desire to install a dictator as the next president.
It's all about power, but they must realize they won't be immune to the Trump machine if he gets in power.
The question is, are there any Republicans who still care about this country enough to speak up?
The answer is very disappointing.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

gorgehiker wrote:

A bill is currently being negotiated between Presi... (show quote)

They are not against border security, they are against the increased aid to Ukraine. They want Russia and Ukraine to sign a treaty and end the war.

Who in blue blazing hell thought of tying these two things together in one bill?

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

robertjerl wrote:

They are not against border security, they are against the increased aid to Ukraine. They want Russia and Ukraine to sign a treaty and end the war.

Who in blue blazing hell thought of tying these two things together in one bill?

I have long thought that this is typical business practice.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

DaveO wrote:

I have long thought that this is typical business practice.

Yes Congress and state legislatures have long done the multi subject bill as a way of getting things that are iffy passed by tying them to things are a sure bet to pass.

I am a retired teacher and the Constitution is one of the things I taught. I have been of the opinion that we need an amendment that all bills must be one subject or multiple parts of one subject.

In example, a bill about building highways may contain provisions for buying private land for right of way, buying equipment and materials etc. but not building a new tanker loading harbor in some Congress Critter's district.

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

robertjerl wrote:

Yes Congress and state legislatures have long done... (show quote)

That makes way too much sense, but it doesn’t allow the local representative to bring home the bacon.

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

gorgehiker wrote:

That makes way too much sense, but it doesn’t allow the local representative to bring home the bacon.

Disallowing the ‘pork’ is the whole idea!

“Pork barrel” projects do not aid the entire country, only one state or district — and someone ELSE (the collective “we”) end up paying for things that benefit very few.
This when funding for major projects that might benefit hundreds-of-thousands or millions are underfunded or denied.

Certainly past-time for “single-subject” bill legislation. Either that or a “no diversionary spending” rule.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

I have heard explanations including that it would simply take too long to deal with each and every bill separately.

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

robertjerl wrote:

They are not against border security, they are against the increased aid to Ukraine. They want Russia and Ukraine to sign a treaty and end the war.

Who in blue blazing hell thought of tying these two things together in one bill?

Republicans in the House previously stated that there is no possibility of aid to Ukraine unless there is a border deal, binding the two issues together. Republicans don't actually want border security measures to pass during an e******n year because they would rather falsely rant about Democrats being totally responsible for the border crisis.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

gorgehiker wrote:

Republicans in the House previously stated that there is no possibility of aid to Ukraine unless there is a border deal, binding the two issues together. Republicans don't actually want border security measures to pass during an e******n year because they would rather falsely rant about Democrats being totally responsible for the border crisis.

Hmmm... Biden has done absolutely nothing about border security until e******n year. There was more border security and control under President Trump than there ever has been under Joe Biden who destroyed the security. Exactly what part of this bill specifically increases border security?

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

Racmanaz wrote:

Hmmm... Biden has done absolutely nothing about border security until e******n year. There was more border security and control under President Trump than there ever has been under Joe Biden who destroyed the security. Exactly what part of this bill specifically increases border security?

No president has done anything about negotiating a deal with congress for decades, including Trump. This is a rare legislative opportunity to actually pass a bipartisan bill that would improve border security.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

gorgehiker wrote:

No president has done anything about negotiating a deal with congress for decades, including Trump. This is a rare legislative opportunity to actually pass a bipartisan bill that would improve border security.

Again what specific part of this bill will increase border security to stop the illegal flow of immigrants?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

AMAZING.....There is a bill to have border security. We already HAD border security under President Trump and other Presidents. POS Joe Biden gave away border security specifically so i*****l a***ns could swarm across our border by the Millions. Had that dumb ass P**********l wannabe left things alone there would still be border security because our border patrol forces could enforce laws rather than act as clerks.

Now the morons on the Left are telling us Republicans don't want border security. Why didn't those morons want border security when Biden took office?

Dennis

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

dennis2146 wrote:

AMAZING.....There is a bill to have border securit... (show quote)

What day was that, that Trump had border security?
I must have missed it.

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

Frank T wrote:

What day was that, that Trump had border security?
I must have missed it.

there is a lotyou have missed besides that...Yes security was better under Trump...