Workflow (Editing) Changes (Page 2): I'm just curious, but what will you do once the SD card is full? You could buy another, but that's a very expensive form of storage per byte. Maybe...

mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA

RonDavis wrote:

I recently upgraded DXO Photolab to version 7.1; r... (show quote)

I'm just curious, but what will you do once the SD card is full? You could buy another, but that's a very expensive form of storage per byte. Maybe you don't shoot very much? I also learned the hard way, SD is the least stable form of storage.

At some point, you are going to have to dump the card onto a hard drive. I remember the old days of floppy disk cards, where I had dozens, maybe hundreds lying around the office. The time I wasted trying to find a file I had saved on any particular one.... jeez.

One last thought, I've lost or misplaced several SD cards over the years, but never my laptop or desktop!

RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL

mikeroetex wrote:

I'm just curious, but what will you do once the SD... (show quote)

Yes, you have misunderstood my observation of this DxO product and it's use in workflow...(sorry about that). I NEVER IMPLIED STORAGE ON THE SD CARD!

Let me try to make it clear (for windows). 1>Insert SD card into a reader, 2>Open DxO program 3>(Using DxO program) Locate drive with card files, 4>perform your edits, 5>use the EXPORT button (for the newly edited file) to disk (same SD card), Lightroom, other PP programs or for further editing or storage!
I export to Lightroom for final editing and then file management-storage pm a (very large) external / desktop hard drive...not the SD card. Like other UHH users, I re-format my SD card for another shoot.

mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA

RonDavis wrote:

Yes, you have misunderstood my observation of this... (show quote)

Just seems like an added step to workflow. Kind of like washing your hands and face at the sink before stepping into the shower.

Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis

RonDavis wrote:

Yes, you have misunderstood my observation of this... (show quote)

Sorry but that's what it looked like to me or you were just having fun staring the pot.
Now if my work flow took that many steps I would say to hell with it.
Mine is: Make folder on desk top, insert card in reader drag Nikon folder to desk top folder. remove card, make sure images made the trip, keep images on SD/CF card until editing is done, done for now, keep folder on DT until all images are edited , move folder to each of three back up storage drives. No images stored on "D" drive after editing.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

RonDavis wrote:

Yes, you have misunderstood my observation of this... (show quote)

But still no indication what advantage editing on the SD card has.

RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL

RonDavis wrote:

Yes, you have misunderstood my observation of this... (show quote)

Wow, my observations and experience with an innovative feature is certainly meeting resistant.
Ok, let’s think about the Faststone Image Viewer for Windows but with real RAW/jpeg editing power. I’m just puzzled that no one else has used the DxO Photo Lab software and seen (the benefit of) this (none destructive) editing feature. Yes, it can create a newly edited .dxo file right on the card! That’s a feature and that's the way it works! By the way…this is the first features mentioned in the tutorial for this advanced RAW editing product. Also, this powerful product features a plug-in / a one-step menu button that will export the edited .dxo file with the other files directly to a (beloved) LightRoom library folder...for additional editing...and/or storage to the drive of your choice.
I’m not an ambassador for this DxO product, just an informative new user. I've found the ability to edit and create a "new" file on the exposed (non-corrupted) SD card an interesting and useful feature in my (revised) P workflow.
It might be time to turn on another Light

goodbye.

Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis

RonDavis wrote:

Wow, my observations and experience with an innova... (show quote)

I don't use faststone !!

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

CHG_CANON wrote:

LOL. Sounds like an excellent way to lose your images. Editing directly on the card? For what, to then format and lose? Why create (add) this unnecessary risk? Who is so time-pressed (aka lazy) to copy their images off their card before editing?

SailAway Loc: Whitehall, Michigan

Wow. Several remarks which can be easily be interpreted as disparaging remarks directed at a well meaning photographer or photo editor for no apparent reason other than the person is processing photos with a workflow somewhat different from their own. I sometimes wonder what happened to civility? By the way, we can and should do better interacting with other members.

RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL

Manglesphoto wrote:

Sorry but that's what it looked like to me or you ... (show quote)

Yes,I should have mentioned that the (non-subscription) DxO 7 is a much better editor than the(non-subscription) Lightroom 6.14 desktop version that I have on my computer.
I also run:
>Photoshop Elements 2024
>Exposure 7
>Luminar Neo
>Capture One Express (for Fujifilm)
>InPixo Studio...(weak and sucks...subscription/connection will not be renewed!)

All have different qualities for my (jpeg) editing. I use the DxO software before sending the chosen/edited files to LR for final editing (if needed) and file management storage. I don't think sending the files to LR is an extra step..no more than using the plug-in for Photoshop Elements?
I also keep the images on the SD card until my editing is done. Then that card is re-formatted for another shoot. No problems....just better editing of selected files at the beginning of the PP.
I'm not in love with PP...but I've found the on-card (select/edit/create-save /.dxo file) editing feature of this software had made it less boring and a bit more interesting...for me .

RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL

Manglesphoto wrote:

I do hope you are Kidding, I believe is see that pattern
For this is nothing new just no one with an IOTA of sense would even consider it.

by the way....I'm lost with the interpretation of IOTA? thanks anyway

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

SailAway wrote:

Wow. Several remarks which can be easily be interpreted as disparaging remarks directed at a well meaning photographer or photo editor for no apparent reason other than the person is processing photos with a workflow somewhat different from their own. I sometimes wonder what happened to civility? By the way, we can and should do better interacting with other members.

Some people seem to have a legitimate concern about losing data with this form of processing. I have asked the OP several times what the advantage of this processing is in light of that, and he hasn't answered.

RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL

SailAway wrote:

Wow. Several remarks which can be easily be interpreted as disparaging remarks directed at a well meaning photographer or photo editor for no apparent reason other than the person is processing photos with a workflow somewhat different from their own. I sometimes wonder what happened to civility? By the way, we can and should do better interacting with other members.

Sorry, that's the way it is on this site...not a lot of open minds to "new workflow features"

You need thick skin before making ANY comments...and be prepare for the artillery from the cavemen resistant to experiment or change. It's ok....just keep doing the same tried and true procedures that deliver expected results (for them). It's safe. Puzzling, these are the same folks that will upgrade, update or buy their expensive hardware (cameras/lenses) and will make proud, unquestionable, undisputed commentary about it. But software and workflow...that's a different story.......and so it goes.

A. T.

RonDavis wrote:

Wow, my observations and experience with an innova... (show quote)

Okay, I've read all of the responses to your original post and it seems to me that the general consensus is that this DxO process is NOT the way to go. There's also a reason that most everyone in this UHH family use Lightroom. I'm just saying.

A. T.

SailAway wrote:

Wow. Several remarks which can be easily be interpreted as disparaging remarks directed at a well meaning photographer or photo editor for no apparent reason other than the person is processing photos with a workflow somewhat different from their own. I sometimes wonder what happened to civility? By the way, we can and should do better interacting with other members.

Now I'm just speaking from my experiences on this forum. Please don't take what these ladies and gents are saying as anything but constructive criticism to help save some aggravation and heartache. It's very difficult to express emotion in words at times. This forum has been a god send for me.....they have saved my arss a many of times from doing something that I would have later regretted.