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Nov 30, 2023 08:09:06   #
imagextrordinair Loc: Halden, Norway
 
raymondh wrote:
I've cropped a 27mb raw (5760x3840) to a 12mb jpg (4974x3316) at 300 dpi using Canon's DPP.
1. Will it produce a reasonable 36x24 print? 24x16 print? (I have gigapixel)
2. Is there a difference between a large size print versus a poster?


If you compose closer you may not have to crop or if you use a longer lens to fill the frame you will get maximum resolution.

Size your Raw image data to the specific jpeg output dimension needed to print during your editing process.

Your original image of 5760 x 3840 pixels would print a 19.2" x 12.8" image 300 Pixel/inch.

Cropped, the 4974 x 3316 pixels would give you a 16.58" x 11.053" print image.

If you need 36 x 24" print, then the size of the output jpeg dimension is 10800 x 7200 pixels at 300 Pixels/inch. 7200 x 4800 pixels produces a 24 x 16 print at 300 pixels/inch.

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Nov 30, 2023 08:15:32   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
dpullum wrote:
Reading enlightens us to what we can or can not see in photography and sharing as a print...
https://www.diax.nl/pages/perception_printquality_uk.html


Thank you dpullum... but what does Canon and Epson Printer sites say...
Start here for info given by Canon..
https://ij.manual.canon/ij/webmanual/PrintStudioPro/M/1.3/EN/DPPG/dppg_f-02.html

And what about Epson?
https://www.epson.eu/en_EU/faq/KA-01467/contents?loc=en-us

Do think a bit, our AI programs like Topaz Gigapixel indeed does change the input to printer data.

I personally do not offer my opinion, I go to those who profession is camera and printers. However I do understand those who eat beans blow wind, and to "Opine is Divine." Opine is to offer opinion factual or not..

People, I realize you hated 8th grade science because the brain injured foot ball taught it but read the authorities and realize they are in the know.

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Nov 30, 2023 08:19:19   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
bsprague wrote:
I have 13x19 prints from my Canon Pixma Pro-100 that mathematically should not work. Somewhere between the printing application and the printer driver, they come out worthy of wall hanging. Some come from phones, some come from video frame grabs and some come from "real" cameras. Some are even cropped beyond what math says will work.


That’s the way I see it too. The final result when you see the print is all that matters, no matter how many pixels went into it.

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Nov 30, 2023 08:52:55   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
terryMc wrote:
This one certainly is...



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Nov 30, 2023 08:54:15   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
raymondh wrote:
I've cropped a 27mb raw (5760x3840) to a 12mb jpg (4974x3316) at 300 dpi using Canon's DPP.
1. Will it produce a reasonable 36x24 print? 24x16 print? (I have gigapixel)
2. Is there a difference between a large size print versus a poster?


I have done excellent prints the size you describe with 6 mp camera and no special software messing with it.
You should be fine with 12 mp and messing with it in other software.
Print and poster could be proprietary definitions. Ask your specific printer what the difference is as no one here can define the difference.

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Nov 30, 2023 08:54:31   #
julian.gang
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
'Dots' have absolution nothing to do with pixel-based images.
Bytes (file size) have absolution nothing to do with printing pixel-based images.

If you want the 'gold standard' of 300 pixels per inch (ppi), the math is quite simple: divide the pixel length and width of the image by 300.

4974/300 = 16.6 inches
3316/300 = 11.1 inches

At 200 ppi, an very acceptable pixel resolution, your math hits 24x16in. Using gigapixel to 'invent' pixels into a larger resolution probably won't look any better than just 'spreading' the existing pixels over a larger canvas.

Already owning gigapixel, you can freely experience with the results. Just upscale the image to the desired pixel resolution. Review the resulting candidate print files at the 1:1 pixel-level, looking at the 300 ppi files vs the edited (original) 4974x3316 image, at the same location(s). Then decide.
'Dots' have absolution nothing to do with pixel-ba... (show quote)


Is there any difference between camera RAW and Adobe Camera RAW as I am a JPEG shooter?...Julian

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Nov 30, 2023 09:02:11   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
julian.gang wrote:
Is there any difference between camera RAW and Adobe Camera RAW as I am a JPEG shooter?...Julian


That would be an unrelated HIJACK question, unrelated to the OP's printing issues. Open a new thread is you wish to pursue.

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Nov 30, 2023 09:07:27   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
I am not sure exactly where this 300 PPI came from ( I think it was for viewing 8X10 prints from 8 inches) but IMO, it really has nothing to do with successful larger printing. As already mentioned, who makes the print and how they print has a LOT to do with the final outcome - as does subject matter. But, in theory more pixels = a more highly defined printing - but larger viewing distances of larger prints will mitigate this....

I can only speak for my Fine Art America printing. They will make larger prints (12X18 +) with as little as 135 PPI and guarantee satisfaction. Most commercial 4/C litho printing uses 133 line screens - so this is making sense to me. Personally, I like to see 165 PPI for my own large printing and it satisfies me very well

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Nov 30, 2023 09:13:02   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
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Nov 30, 2023 09:50:00   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
raymondh wrote:
I've cropped a 27mb raw (5760x3840) to a 12mb jpg (4974x3316) at 300 dpi using Canon's DPP.
1. Will it produce a reasonable 36x24 print? 24x16 print? (I have gigapixel)
2. Is there a difference between a large size print versus a poster?


Why did you crop it. Go back to the original 27MB RAW file.

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Nov 30, 2023 12:29:25   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
I'm reading all this stuff and can't help thinking what a newbie might be thinking. He's probably selling all of his/her equipment as we speak. LOL

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Nov 30, 2023 12:31:06   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
We haven't heard a peep from the OP either.

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Nov 30, 2023 13:05:46   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
We haven't heard a peep from the OP either.


He committed suicide

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Nov 30, 2023 13:49:39   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
foathog wrote:
He committed suicide


Let's hope not.

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Nov 30, 2023 13:53:30   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
I seriously doubt it.

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