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Nov 14, 2023 05:10:37   #
cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
 
Bill_de wrote:
If/when you do, you will become our resident Nit-Wit!

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Nov 14, 2023 05:15:28   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Artists probably thought that photography would be the death of painting and drawing. It wasn't.

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Nov 14, 2023 06:23:32   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
twosummers wrote:
Hi my friends - I've been absent from the site for a few months trying to get my head around all of this AI stuff. Maybe I'm just getting old (I am) but it is truly frightening. From a photography interest perspective I have been looking at 2 applications - one is called DALL-E and the other is Midjourney. Here's the scary part - I spent some time writing a prompt (you have to tell these AI machines what to do) - let's say you want a photograph - it can be just a regular one or an exiting one (say for a poster or an advertisement). The prompts can be what you need the photo to depict, the aspect ratio, camera model, lens, aperture, filter, shutter speed, weather, location - you can be as creative as you like. So from a prompt of about 50 words I got this image in a few seconds! If you are a graphic designer (for example) you've just saved yourself a bunch of time and brainpower. I read today that images of people created by AI cannot be distinguished from real photographs.......
Hi my friends - I've been absent from the site for... (show quote)

I still don’t believe the assistant will be making decisions. I spent some time last night removing a scratch that otherwise ruined a, for me ‘unique’, negative made many years ago. An AI assistant could’ve
saved a lot of time. But I can aim and set a camera. With the exception of sending a drone off to take a photo of a spot I can’t get to - but can describe - I think are wasting entirely too much time thinking about this.

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Nov 14, 2023 07:34:43   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
twosummers wrote:
Hi my friends - I've been absent from the site for a few months trying to get my head around all of this AI stuff. Maybe I'm just getting old (I am) but it is truly frightening. From a photography interest perspective I have been looking at 2 applications - one is called DALL-E and the other is Midjourney. Here's the scary part - I spent some time writing a prompt (you have to tell these AI machines what to do) - let's say you want a photograph - it can be just a regular one or an exiting one (say for a poster or an advertisement). The prompts can be what you need the photo to depict, the aspect ratio, camera model, lens, aperture, filter, shutter speed, weather, location - you can be as creative as you like. So from a prompt of about 50 words I got this image in a few seconds! If you are a graphic designer (for example) you've just saved yourself a bunch of time and brainpower. I read today that images of people created by AI cannot be distinguished from real photographs.......
Hi my friends - I've been absent from the site for... (show quote)


LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE AI. Best thing yet that has happened for photography.

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Nov 14, 2023 07:45:45   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Does AI actually create de novo contents (images, drawings, patterns, etc.) for the subject and background matter, or does it just do a search and then compile a collage of varying content previously created by others?

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Nov 14, 2023 07:57:53   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Something to think about...right now, we are in the "free demonstration period" of AI. It's fun to play without having to pay. At some point, it's going to be commercialized, and users will have to pay. The free lunch will end. Given the computing power and storage required to support AI systems, the rates are probably going to be somewhere between "significant" and "pretty high." How is that going to affect your opinion?

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Nov 14, 2023 08:02:30   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
billnikon wrote:
LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE AI. Best thing yet that has happened for photography.


Your words say that photography is better (best) without photographers in favour of AI.
It also means that you are including your collection of Nikons to be inferior against AI to create images.
You obviously include your artistic talents to be inferior to AI.
On reflection - perhaps you are correct so far as you and your Nikons are concerned. So why are you here?

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Nov 14, 2023 08:04:37   #
Canisdirus
 
twosummers wrote:
Hi my friends - I've been absent from the site for a few months trying to get my head around all of this AI stuff. Maybe I'm just getting old (I am) but it is truly frightening. From a photography interest perspective I have been looking at 2 applications - one is called DALL-E and the other is Midjourney. Here's the scary part - I spent some time writing a prompt (you have to tell these AI machines what to do) - let's say you want a photograph - it can be just a regular one or an exiting one (say for a poster or an advertisement). The prompts can be what you need the photo to depict, the aspect ratio, camera model, lens, aperture, filter, shutter speed, weather, location - you can be as creative as you like. So from a prompt of about 50 words I got this image in a few seconds! If you are a graphic designer (for example) you've just saved yourself a bunch of time and brainpower. I read today that images of people created by AI cannot be distinguished from real photographs.......
Hi my friends - I've been absent from the site for... (show quote)


The answer is a simple one....still photography is dead in the water.

Folks being able to realize that is a different matter...many will flail about in denial.

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Nov 14, 2023 08:29:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Canisdirus wrote:
The answer is a simple one....still photography is dead in the water.

Folks being able to realize that is a different matter...many will flail about in denial.

Nahhh. Photography isn't dead.
Just a new thing (different aspect of image creation) people are playing with.
Interest will wain. some will still be captivated.

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Nov 14, 2023 08:40:49   #
Canisdirus
 
Longshadow wrote:
Nahhh. Photography isn't dead.
Just a new thing (different aspect of image creation) people are playing with.
Interest will wain. some will still be captivated.


Oh...here's a 'flailer' now...

STILL photography is dead statistically...a dead end.

Video...still has legs...for now.

You can ignore the market...the market doesn't care.

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Nov 14, 2023 08:43:46   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Oh...here's a 'flailer' now...

STILL photography is dead statistically...a dead end.

Video...still has legs...for now.

You can ignore the market...the market doesn't care.

THE MARKET ignores the whole thing; nobody would even talk about here if certain people wouldn’t keep bringing it up.

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Nov 14, 2023 08:49:36   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
David Martin wrote:
Does AI actually create de novo contents (images, drawings, patterns, etc.) for the subject and background matter, or does it just do a search and then compile a collage of varying content previously created by others?


The imagery that the computer creates is new and unique every time, based on what it has "learned" about how things are supposed to look, after being "trained" on multi-millions of images found by scraping the WWWeb. It is similar to telling person to draw a picture of anything from memory.

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Nov 14, 2023 08:52:59   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
twosummers wrote:
Here you go Stan (probably more than 50 words!) - Whilst this prompt uses Midjourney variables the image I posted above was produced by ChatGPT - bear in mind that if you use the same prompt you'll get a different result as everything (documents, images etc) are generated each time! - it's very clever. I'm buying into this tech and compiling thousands of prompts by category (I need to get out more)

Here is the prompt -

Capture a thrilling car chase scene on a busy city street. The cars should be moving at high speed, weaving through traffic with skyscrapers in the background. The lighting should be clear and bright, highlighting the action and creating a sense of urgency. Use a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV DSLR camera with an EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS III USM lens to capture the car chase. --ar 16:9 --v 5.1 --style raw --q 2 --s 750

Enjoy

You can of course use this exact prompt a dozen or more times and get a dozen or more unique images. If you modify the prompt you'll get something else of course. Rinse and repeat

James
Here you go Stan (probably more than 50 words!) - ... (show quote)


Thank you, James! It’s interesting to me that the prompt didn’t mention motorcycles but they appear in the image, and flying ones as well! That creative thinking aspect of AI makes me uncomfortable for some reason.

Stan

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Nov 14, 2023 08:54:10   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Beauty is not in the eye, but in the mind, and knowing that others can't tell if AI was used.

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Nov 14, 2023 08:57:21   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Canisdirus wrote:
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You can ignore the market...the market doesn't care.

Umm, neither do I. I don't follow markets, trends, or gee-whiz-bang neat things.
Now "photography" may be moving to cells, but definitely not dead.

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