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Nov 6, 2023 07:17:29   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Many people have been killed by cars turning "right on red," so the authorities are considering ending that practice. Drivers often just roll right through the red light, and they don't see pedestrians until they hit them. Someone from a drivers' organization is in favor of keeping the law because he said that those deaths amount to only 1% of traffic deaths. He thinks the purpose of eliminating that law is to make driving "as miserable and difficult and miserable as possible so people don't drive so much."

One thing I don't like about turning right on red is the car behind me. Very often, the driver is surprised that I stop before turning. I expect to get run into one of these days.

[i/]From 2010 to 2021, pedestrian deaths increased from 4,302 to 7,624, a 77 percent rise, according to the federal data. Jun 27, 2023[/i] 1% of 7,624 = 76 dead people. That's not so bad, right?

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Nov 6, 2023 07:37:15   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
I'd like to keep right turn on red after stop.

Get rid of the posterior portal drivers who blow through it.....

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Nov 6, 2023 07:56:43   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Longshadow wrote:
I'd like to keep right turn on red after stop.

Get rid of the posterior portal drivers who blow through it.....




It's extremely annoying sitting at a long red light when there is absolutely no traffic moving. That's where we need better traffic light controls.

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Nov 6, 2023 08:14:02   #
pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts
 
Pedestrians crossing while looking at their phones are also part of the problem.

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Nov 6, 2023 08:30:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jerryc41 wrote:


It's extremely annoying sitting at a long red light when there is absolutely no traffic moving. That's where we need better traffic light controls.

More lights (added right turn arrows) will cost more.
Too bad people just can't seem to work with the system. They either make their own rules or the existing ones don't apply to them. Mostly the second.....
They'll do what they want no matter what lights/rules are in place.

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Nov 6, 2023 08:35:24   #
bobups Loc: Bath pa
 
Some accidents happen when person makes right turn on red and next person doesn’t look at light and drives straight ahead into traffic

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Nov 6, 2023 09:00:45   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
Much better than a left turn on red.

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Nov 6, 2023 09:01:36   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
pbearperry wrote:
Pedestrians crossing while looking at their phones are also part of the problem.


Yes! It's rare to see someone walking without looking at a phone. I saw a man walking alongside a busy highway yesterday. He was walking with his head down, looking at his phone. What I find annoying is people walking slowly through parking lots and looking at their phones.

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Nov 6, 2023 09:02:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
alberio wrote:
Much better than a left turn on red.


That's not an action you can complete very many times.

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Nov 6, 2023 09:13:27   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
The main problem with right turn on red is that you are supposed to stop before you turn. Most drivers don't stop. I often see a whole line of cars making a right on red without stopping. They are actually just running the light. No wonder they're hitting pedestrians in the crosswalk. They should either enforce the law or get rid of the practice.

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Nov 6, 2023 09:25:10   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
alberio wrote:
Much better than a left turn on red.


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Nov 6, 2023 09:37:35   #
bobups Loc: Bath pa
 
Also pedestrians crossing when they shouldn’t be crossing most traffic light intersections have a red or white hand when to cross

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Nov 6, 2023 09:54:06   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
pbearperry wrote:
Pedestrians crossing while looking at their phones are also part of the problem.


Bingo!

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Nov 6, 2023 11:02:51   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Many people have been killed by cars turning "right on red," so the authorities are considering ending that practice. Drivers often just roll right through the red light, and they don't see pedestrians until they hit them. Someone from a drivers' organization is in favor of keeping the law because he said that those deaths amount to only 1% of traffic deaths. He thinks the purpose of eliminating that law is to make driving "as miserable and difficult and miserable as possible so people don't drive so much."

One thing I don't like about turning right on red is the car behind me. Very often, the driver is surprised that I stop before turning. I expect to get run into one of these days.

[i/]From 2010 to 2021, pedestrian deaths increased from 4,302 to 7,624, a 77 percent rise, according to the federal data. Jun 27, 2023[/i] 1% of 7,624 = 76 dead people. That's not so bad, right?
Many people have been killed by cars turning "... (show quote)


When you come up to a corner where you are going to turn right if the light is red you are supposed to stop, and then turn right. It is the law.

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Nov 6, 2023 11:04:33   #
bob7fred
 
Check the state driving manual. It most likely is stop and procede.

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