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Any need for Professional photographers anymore when using AI?
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Oct 28, 2023 23:22:30   #
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Canisdirus wrote:
There will always be a need for a human photographer...

But the number needed is dropping drastically, and permanently.


Exactly. The Great Extinction did not erase all animal species, just the vast majority of them.

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Oct 28, 2023 23:30:36   #
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sodapop wrote:
Synthetic music did not replace music even though it could reproduce virtually all musical instruments. Live music groups and orchestras thrive today. AI will not replace photographers

A verrrrrrry false equivalencey. Theres no point in comparing the two art forms.

Ensemble music is the effemeral output of social interaction within a group of artists. Photography is pretty much the opposite.

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Oct 28, 2023 23:43:17   #
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JohnSwanda wrote:
It could replace some photographers. Aspiring pro photographers need to do things AI can't do.

Yup, and that is an ever shrinking market.

There was a fad of providing single use film cameras to wedding guests. Issue all of the guests single use digital cameras and AI can then use the crowd sourced data to create a professional looking wedding album or video or both ... or perhaps even a VR experience.

100 guests times $20 per camera is $2000.
Add $500 for "management", and at $2500 the "wedding photographer" goes extinct. If you dont like my $$ estimates then you can easily just make up your own. Same result.

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Oct 29, 2023 02:25:53   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
I see two distinct areas in photography that involve AI. The first involves its use in post processing of images. There could be discussions about techniques and about "how much is too much without disclosure". The second area concerns AI creating images after receiving written instructions on the desired results. I see many of the people who defend the use of AI do so on the basis of its being used in post processing saying essentially that images have been worked over from the very beginning of photography and AI is just another version of that. It is the second area involving creating photographs and other creative creative output the quality of which is based on the skill person writing the request not on any photography or other creative skills. The problem comes when they claim the quality of their output is evidence of the quality of their skill as a photographer or whatever and the role of the AI is not acknowledged. In other words, they lie.

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Oct 29, 2023 02:44:56   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
User ID wrote:
Yup, and that is an ever shrinking market.

There was a fad of providing single use film cameras to wedding guests. Issue all of the guests single use digital cameras and AI can then use the crowd sourced data to create a professional looking wedding album or video or both ... or perhaps even a VR experience.

100 guests times $20 per camera is $2000.
Add $500 for "management", and at $2500 the "wedding photographer" goes extinct. If you dont like my $$ estimates then you can easily just make up your own. Same result.
Yup, and that is an ever shrinking market. br br ... (show quote)


Interesting. For once, I'm not whacking on you (which I think you usually deserve) and have a question. In an AI request situation can perameters bet set? In other words limiting the created results, from the specific images. If so, not only could images be submitted from the provided digital cameras, but also from cell phone images. Who knows, AI location venues could be established where weddings could be held, if the people wanted that, or reunions or any number of other possibiliities.

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Oct 29, 2023 13:19:11   #
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RodeoMan wrote:
Interesting. For once, I'm not whacking on you (which I think you usually deserve) and have a question. In an AI request situation can perameters bet set? In other words limiting the created results, from the specific images. If so, not only could images be submitted from the provided digital cameras, but also from cell phone images. Who knows, AI location venues could be established where weddings could be held, if the people wanted that, or reunions or any number of other possibiliities.
Interesting. For once, I'm not whacking on you (... (show quote)

Cant really answer that cuz you are asking about the present and I was describing the foreseeable future. IOW, Im extrapolating.

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Oct 29, 2023 21:10:03   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
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Cant really answer that cuz you are asking about the present and I was describing the foreseeable future. IOW, Im extrapolating.


That's fair. I do suspect that some version of what you suggested (and even more) is on the horizon.

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Oct 30, 2023 20:26:24   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
We are going to beat this subject to death for sure, but I'll say it again anyway. Both artists and photographers will suffer to a certain degree.
Portrait, wedding, pet and baby photographers will go on doing what they do. People who sell photos of landscapes, wild life, birds, anything that can be sold to hang on a wall just for the sheer beauty of it will suffer. AI can do that quicker and cheaper.
Artists (like me) will suffer when trying to sell paintings of landscapes, waterfalls, birds, wildlife, but I paint mostly for horse and dog lovers. I paint THEIR horse (& dog) portraits, THEIR horses in a seasonal landscape, THEIR horses on their Christmas cards, barn signs with THEIR horses on them and yard decorations with... their horses on them, so I will still be OK in some areas

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